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Evidence to suggest vitamin D can prevent viral respiratory infections and lessen the severity if you do contract it

201 replies

Roostersmum2 · 04/04/2020 03:10

Just sharing this here for anybody who wasn't aware of the benefits of vitamin D in regards to respiratory infections. He knows what he's talking about Smile

In summary, if you're not already - take vitamin D

We're taking 4000iu vitamin D daily w/ 1000iu vitamin C

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ErrolTheDragon · 04/04/2020 10:48

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what exactly to take. As mentioned above , too much isn’t good for you,

Yes. Unless you've been specifically prescribed larger amounts then the appropriate dose is 10 micrograms, which is 400 IU per day.

I should sufficient from my multivitamin (5 micrograms) and fish oil (another 5 micrograms). And I get out in the sun when I can - irrelevant in winter when the angle is too low and one is wrapped up, very beneficial from spring through autumn. And I eat dairy food.

Smartanimal · 04/04/2020 10:56

Apparently if you had the BCG vaccine as part of a mandatory immunisation in childhood, you are less likely to get CV. Unfortunately most countries dropped it and in those countries the CV is more widespread and deadly. Check out the Covid worldwide map.

Tonyaster · 04/04/2020 11:00

Really?

Clavinova · 04/04/2020 11:01

almost all of the HCPs who have died have been BAME. Nobody seems to be asking questions about whether there is an increased risk linked to ethnicity

Although some of the BAME doctors were older as well - 64, 68 and 76 - age is also a factor in vitamin D deficiency.

SwerfandTurf · 04/04/2020 11:02

I have low levels and my GP told me a few years ago I’d need to supplement for life.

I hate pills so I use the fruit flavoured gummies. Delicious!

AlunWynsKnee · 04/04/2020 11:02

My vit D levels are monitored as part of blood tests I have regularly because of medication I'm on. The GP said my last lot of results were all good so I assume my vit D is OK. I was told to take less at one point because it was getting high.
Do you think having a mid range result is good enough?

Hairwizard · 04/04/2020 11:17

www.instagram.com/tv/B-hcja3HpC8/?igshid=jy8thori6434

Hoping this works.
This is a good friend of ours. We call him the nutty professorGrin
He has his own medical practice he runs with his wife and there are 9 doctors who work there.

ErrolTheDragon · 04/04/2020 11:47

Re the BCG vacc, there's a study out as a preprint - it's not yet been peer reviewed. So, interesting but no more than that at present.

www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.24.20042937v1

Roostersmum2 · 04/04/2020 12:12

Interesting about the BCG vaccine. I didn't have it myself unfortunately but both of my children have.

I'll order some K2 aswell

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ofwarren · 04/04/2020 12:21

With the BCG thing, I had it at school but I'm 40 now. I'm assuming I won't still be immune to TB?

Nameofchanges · 04/04/2020 12:25

The NHS recommends that everyone takes a vitamin d supplement.

MitziK · 04/04/2020 12:27

Probably will be. When I had my NHS employment check, they asked if I'd had it, or they'd need to test for immunity. (They also tested for Measles).

I never had the BCG because I reacted strongly to the Heaf Test - when I was starting biologics last year, they said they had to test again for immunity before commencing medication - that was a blood test, rather than a skin prick - it came back that I was immune/didn't need a BCG.

BigChocFrenzy · 04/04/2020 12:27

If anyone is a smoker, btw, then STOP

Far more effective & safer than taking any vitamins

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/smokers-at-greater-risk-of-severe-respiratory-disease-from-covid-19

Emerging evidence from China shows
smokers with COVID-19 are 14 times more likely to develop severe respiratory disease

MitziK · 04/04/2020 12:29

Interestingly though, I'm obviously high risk and have been ill - but not to the point of needing admission/emergency treatment.

I take a multivitamin with D3 in it daily since finding out I had a severe deficiency (needed the 30,000 IU doses several times) a few years ago, complete with osteomalacia.

TakeMeOn · 04/04/2020 12:29

Something I don't understand but have wondered, vitamin d is clearly very important to humans but our main natural source of it is the sunlight, yet in most cases we don't get enough of it from the sun and many of us are deficient. Why is that? It can't be just that we don't spend enough time outside can it? Shouldn't we have evolved in such a way that we absorb it better? In UK winter or in parts of the world where they get little sunlight year round, I can't imagine it's possible to get enough from sun exposure no matter how much time you spend outside. I suppose maybe in places like the UK we are supposed to build up our levels in the summer and have stores ready to use during the darker months, like squirrels. (Sorry if any scientists read this. I'm clearly not one so if I've said anything stupid, forgive me. I've just wondered about this a lot).

AlunWynsKnee · 04/04/2020 12:30

ofwarren there's no definitive answer about how long the BCG is effective for I think. I did some Googling and 20 years seemed to be the top figure. Mine was 35+ years ago.
Hope you are feeling better (lurker on the worried threads)

okiedokieme · 04/04/2020 12:30

I had the bcg but my kids weren't offered it despite me requesting it specifically (because we have a high rate of tb in our city). Perhaps I'll suggest they get it done once drs reopen for normal appointments

Nameofchanges · 04/04/2020 12:31

You can’t get enough vitamin d from sunlight in the U.K.

You make up the rest from your diet.

Balmytissues · 04/04/2020 12:33

That's interesting as I was talking about Vit C with my friend who is a doctor and he said he's taking Vit C & Vit D - never thought that the D was for the virus, just thought he was mentioning what vitamins he takes in general.

Nameofchanges · 04/04/2020 12:33

And we have evolved to maximise the amount we get from sunlight in the U.K.

That’s why people are white.

TakeMeOn · 04/04/2020 12:33

My BCG was approx 21 years ago. My 5 year old had it when she was a baby because we lived in a high risk area. We didn't ask, it was offered to us and I'm surprised it wasn't offered to your dc okie. Good idea to ask for it when normal service resumes I think.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 04/04/2020 12:35

Takemeon
You can obtain Vit D from oily fish. Coincidentally, oily fish was traditionally part of the diet in many Northern European populations.

MitziK · 04/04/2020 12:36

We did evolve to absorb it better. That's why there is white skin, very white skin and Scots/Nordic so-white-we're-blue skin.

We aren't outside as much. We don't work outside, we don't hunt outside, we don't get up with the sun. We don't eat the foods that are high in it. The foods we do eat are often produced in ways that reduce it - mushrooms used to grow outside. They now grow in massive sheds. Fish are factory farmed and we tend to not want oily ones.

And yes, we cover up our bodies and wear sunblock for fear of skin cancer, keep children inside and wonder how they end up with rickets (childhood vitamin D deficiency).

Fluffycloudland77 · 04/04/2020 12:37

@TakeMeOn

When we evolved we were naked. If you went round naked all summer I imagine you’d stockpile loads of vit d.

TakeMeOn · 04/04/2020 12:39

And we have evolved to maximise the amount we get from sunlight in the U.K.

That’s why people are white.

I did think that name but even white people don't seem to absorb it that well considering how important it seems to be. I now live in an area with a high percentage of white population and most people here are deficient. That's what I was told by my gp who's got a bit of a special interest in vitamin d. I wasn't deficient but I think that's because I've always taken a supplement.