Number of deaths in Asians

[Orangeblossom78]

I wondered if anyone else had noticed there seems to be a higher rate in Asians for example in the doctors and nurse recently also the 13 year old boy and wondered about the reasons for this. Please don't say this is being 'racist' as it isn't... I just wondered if any others had noticed this too.

Need to be cautious when interpretating this because bigger studies have shown centenarians and supercentenarians across Asia are more likely to have blood group A (circa 32%). So it may just be something as simple as the most elderly in Asia having a specific blood group - it’s not the blood group that puts them at risk it’s their age (and any co-existing co-morbidities).

That's interesting, GrumpyHoonMain. Totally agree with your reminder to be cautious when preliminary interpreting stats like this.

I can see a huge rabbit hole of possible amateur internet investigation opening up here. Must resist as I'm meant to be WFH!

Correlation is not causation or Caucasian 😂

3 brown people does not make a pattern - unless you are white

Correlation is not causation or Caucasian 😂

Gamble , thanks for a much- needed laugh in these grim times

This is interesting:

www.independent.co.uk/voices/coronavirus-muslim-mosque-closure-prayer-nhs-a9411936.html

Had this conversation earlier.

It's a very small data set so may still be anecdotal but all the drs have a genetic make up that isn't 100% British even if they are and so did the poor young lad who lost his life.

They are still doing loads of research into statistics but I also know they've said about blood groups seeming to have some reflection on possible outcomes too.

This is interesting

Yes it is - not all Asian countries practice the same religion of course which might explain the variation in deaths between countries - other religions may tend to have more solitary worship rather than large gatherings. Iran is a Muslim country as well - mosques - large prayer meetings - shared prayer mats.

How often do you see a doctor at the top of their field in the UK who is white? Maybe there are just more Asian doctors, therefore more chance of them dying.

100% British is such a cluster fuck in scientific terms as to be almost Daily Mail science.

16:02PeanutbutterJamSandwich

How often do you see a doctor at the top of their field in the UK who is white? Maybe there are just more Asian doctors, therefore more chance of them dying.

This is what I wonder.

The Asian doctors thing is not meaningful at all. I think most of not all of them practiced in London where a large proportion of doctors are Asian.

Potentially, it could be a combination of factors - IF later research shows it to be the case. At present, you could be talking about people in any number of different communities as different as an English person, a French person, a Greek person and a Polish person.

1. The large number of healthcare professionals.
2. Areas of significant population.
3. Multigenerational Households.
4. Statistically poorer and less healthy or wealthier and more likely to work in healthcare.
5. Increased incidence of comorbid risk factors.
6. Tendency to keep on working past retirement age increasing the opportunities for infection.
7. Grandparents are far more likely to be providing childcare rather than children going to Nursery/School Based Childcare when the parents are working in Healthcare.
8. (Based anecdotally on my friends' families). There is no way Grandmother or Auntie is going to tolerate socially distancing from the grandchildren in the house.

But 4 doctors is not enough to 'prove' one way or the other. For a start, it completely ignores the numbers of Nurses and other HCPs of different ethnicities who have died not that Matt Hancock gave a shit about them because they aren't Middle Class

Guardian article on coronavirus deaths among BAME doctors.

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/10/uk-coronavirus-deaths-bame-doctors-bma