Alarming death rate of ‘closed’ cases in UK

[Monkeyseemonkeydont]

Is anybody talking about this statistic? ‘Closed’ cases are the people who did have it, but no longer do. The two outcomes - they either recovered or they died. Is anybody else alarmed to see the 90% death rate in the UK? Or is that just because the active cases are relatively recent and haven’t had a chance to ‘close’ one way or the other yet?

Source: www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

I think, or at least I hope, it is because we are only testing those in hospital so the sickest and more likely to die. Also because it is hard to quantify when recovery is definite which may take longer so there is a time lag
Fingers crossed

Is this maybe because we are not doing widespread testing? So only people tested (and positive) are in the stats. I'm not sure... just a theory.

Sorry crossed post

Globally the percentage of closed cases for deaths has crept up over the last couple of weeks

Monkeyseemonkeydont I'm pretty sure it's because of the UK's bizzare decision not to test.

I'm in southern Germany and everyone I know whose had a cough or fever has been tested.

So mild cases are identified. So our cases to deaths stats look good (reality is actually reflected).

The fact you've had well over 1000 deaths in the UK means you actually have well over 100,000

Those stats tend to start that way. It also takes longer to recover than die, especially in a hospital setting. I think the average for ICU patients was at least 4 weeks, due to the 2-3 weeks on a ventilator.

Thanks everyone for the reassurance. I was thinking probably a mixture of a time lag and the not testing enough, so I’m glad to see others think the same! It’s hard not to get caught up in all the doom and gloom

Sorry, am MN ING while homeschooling, pressed post too soon.

Only cases requiring hospital admission are tested as I understand it in the UK. This means the UK's statistics are wrong.

Obviously it also means contact tracing isn't happening and doubtless people with the virus are still supermarket shopping and people who've actually just had a cold or a different virus are running about telling people they've had covid and thinking they're immune... So it will continue to spread in the UK.

I don't think a higher % are dying in the UK, you just have multiple times more cases than reported. Extrapolate the real number of cases in the UK from the death rate. The UK has 3 times more cases than it's reporting.

The mild cases simply aren't in our stats.
If you want to compare with other counties, really the only vaguely comparable metric is the deaths per million of population.

The recovery rate is not getting updated at all tho so, although we might expect the death rate to be much higher initially anyway, there are no new recoveries being updated. This doesn't seem like it would actually be the case tho so I'm reckoning there's no one recording these figures and lots and lots of people are actually recovering without being recorded

6% of positive tests result in death in England whereas its 3% in Scotland.
Rather worrying difference.

www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

www.gov.scot/coronavirus-covid-19/

To keep you up to date.

The recovered cases has been at 135 for about a week, for whatever reason this is a statistic that isn't being reported/caputured in the analysis, that bit of worldometer is totally meaningless.

6% of positive tests result in death in England whereas its 3% in Scotland
Rather worrying difference

Unless that statistic is based on completely analogous testing regimes started at exactly the same time it is also meaningless

On the website I use it has the same figures, but by the "recovered" figure it say "minimum number, reporting is not mandatory".
In other words, if people get better it does not have to be reported, so the figure for recoveries is not indicative of anything much.

On worldometer recovered cases arent updated. AND we arent testing.

It's not a 90% death rate for anyone who gets covid in the UK.