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Where is the risk in going out for country walks?

239 replies

OatMilkAddict · 30/03/2020 00:01

I've been very careful to limit social interaction (apart from food shopping once per week for me and elderly family members isolating elsewhere), but I have been out walking for an hour or two most days since lockdown.
I head on foot to secluded woods and fields where I only rarely see people (and give them a wide berth if I do). I don't touch a thing while I'm out, nor sit down or brush against anything. As soon as I get home, I remove my shoes and wash my hands, phone and keys.
Without being goady, I am curious to hear from the most vehement "stay at home" advocates precisely how my daily walk is going to get me (or anyone else) sick, because I literally don't understand where the risk is!

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midgebabe · 30/03/2020 08:05

Getting bored vs getting dead or killing someone? Is it really a hard choice for some people?

Bunnyfuller · 30/03/2020 08:07

The reason for not driving away from your home to the countryside (assuming you don’t live in the countryside) is to minimise any chances of RTCs. Emergency services are already stretched and there’s no need for us to add to the potential workload.

EffOrf · 30/03/2020 08:10

I'm not sure about canoes and suchlike, do you have to register them and follow rules like DH does with his rowing boat which is bigger, his boat has a no. on the side like cars used to have a tax disc. DH seemed to think canoes were different who obviously he doesn't know as he hasn't got one

TheStarryNight · 30/03/2020 08:11

It’s an example of “Tragedy of the Commons” also called “Tragedy of the Freedom of the Commons”.

Ten Real Life Examples of the Tragedy of The Commons

Basically, when it is in everyone’s individual interest to maximise their use of a common good, and the there is no reason for an individual to limit or reduce their consumption of that good, there comes a point where that good is overused and depleted to an extent it becomes of no use to anyone.

In this instance, the “good” is access to space and fresh air, far from the madding crowd and free from the risk of infection by a respiratory disease.

But if lots of people do that, the good is lost. It is crowded, there is increased risk of infection, there isn’t enough space, people are too close together, the freedom from the worry of infection is lost. There is also the additional factor of increased risk of accidents during unnecessary journeys (and infection risk in crowded situations where people might be out of their cars e.g. traffic jams, car parks, petrol stations).

This can be seen in action in pictures from Snowdonia etc recently. Somewhere that is usually empty became crowded.

People might say “Ah, but there is a spot only I know, I’ve never seen anyone there before”. But it is difficult to know accurately how remote/secluded/unknown a spot really is. Even the top of Mount Everest becomes crowded at times.

Just because you’ve never seen anyone else there, doesn’t mean no- one else knows about. There has been a recent massive increase in the number of people with time available (people laid off, off school/work etc). There has also been a massive reduction in the available activities for that time- no cinemas, concerts, gyms, sports matches, limited shopping etc. So with more people and less to do, somewhere that is usually quiet on e.g. a Wednesday afternoon could rapidly and unexpectedly become a crowded hotspot.

Starlight1243 · 30/03/2020 08:14

I think the issue prior to lock down was people were flocking to these beauty spots for a walk because everything was closed and social distancing went out of the window. We have two local beauty spots which were packed with people. Hence why stricter measures were put into place in regards to prevent everyone going to a beauty location for a walk.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 30/03/2020 08:15

Are you staying within 2km of your home when you're taking these walks? If not, stop. It's that simple. Find a place to do your 2 hour walk locally. Until this is over.
If everyone did 2 hour walks in the countryside, it wouldn't be deserted and it would prolong the lockdown/time it takes to flatten the curve.

Why are people in general (not just the OP) taking so long to grasp the fact that if they go out, they are making the duration of flattening the curve longer. It'll mean that the rules are applied for a longer time and they are not contributing to helping the situation but to making it worse for a lot more people.

If you're told to stay home, do just that.
If you're told to exercise within 2km of your home, do just that. Don't drive to a picturesque part of the country to do your exercise, stay close to home.
If you're told to wash your hands more frequently, do just that.
It's not rocket science but it is manageable and if you insist on driving somewhere to take your exercise, you're screwing it up for the rest of us. Have some consideration for others.

SansaSnark · 30/03/2020 08:16

It hasn't been said officially, but I think the restrictions on driving are to try and stop spread from cluster to cluster. If the virus takes hold in a town or village, it's likely other people in that town/village will get it too- but hopefully it will be limited to just that town/village, which will limit the size of the outbreak.

If someone goes for a walk in the next village over, touching gates and maybe stopping in at the village shop, then they can pass it on to the next village- potentially drastically increasing the size of the outbreak. And each individual person can say "well I wouldn't do that, I'd just walk and not touch anything"- but some people will, and it is easier to have straightforward restrictions that everyone can understand e.g. no driving for exercise.

The not needing to call out emergency services argument is important too. A lot of lowland/mountain rescue medics work for the NHS, so wouldn't be able to attend, for example.

EffOrf · 30/03/2020 08:17

WhatchaMaCalllit

Is there a 2km limit, maybe you could link to it?

lmcneil003 · 30/03/2020 08:17

Go for a long walk and ignore the doomsters and gloomsters.
You're allowed to, and it's necessary for your mental health.

EffOrf · 30/03/2020 08:19

Maybe if everyone just followed the official Government guidelines rather than taking advice from randoms on the internet such as MN, Facebook and Twitter.

Blackbear19 · 30/03/2020 08:20

olivehater
What’s the problem with driving somewhere. We have an electric car so no need to get petrol. I really fancy driving to the next village for a change. I have three little kids and They are getting bored of the same walk. Too young to cycle.

Seriously no, just no. It's not just about fuel and petrol stations.
Somebody needs to be at the power station that produces the electricity for your car. Reduce the amount of fuel needed.
Its also about avoiding unnecessary journeys, more journeys, more accidents, more breakdowns.

If your children are too young to cycle. Get them going on scooters or balance bikes. Don't have unnecessary journeys.

On Saturday the country parks round here were ridiculously busy as everyone had the same idea. Now it looks like they will close the parks completely.

I live a 5 min walk from the nearest park and I'm terrified to walk my kids to it as I just know it will be full of people who've travelled.

coachman · 30/03/2020 08:22

Where has this 2km limit come from? And why are people talking about driving when the OP clearly says she goes on foot?

I go for an hour's walk most days, all on foot from my home. I go further than 2km though. If asked to keep within 2km of home I will, but I don't think that's the requirement at the moment.

forrasee · 30/03/2020 08:23

@WhatchaMaCalllit When was the 2K limit announced?

EffOrf · 30/03/2020 08:23

People are just making it up as they go along just ignore

ErrolTheDragon · 30/03/2020 08:24

Someone was paddling an inflatable canoe along the canal when we were walking the other day. Not risky, and he was much better distanced than if he'd been on the towpath with us. No idea whether it was technically 'allowed' - there's nothing in the actual law which prohibits this.

PeanutbutterJamSandwich · 30/03/2020 08:27

I live in the Lake District and have some beautiful walks on my doorstep. I did a low level one and posted a pic on the Lake District FB page and got completely ripped in to for ‘visiting’ the Lakes! It’s closed and I shouldn’t be walking there!.... All this ripping came from tourists who live in cities and towns hundreds of miles away!

itssquidstella · 30/03/2020 08:27

There is no 2km limit. Robert Jenrick yesterday advised that people didn't spend more than an hour outdoors exercising, but it's not (yet) a rule.

bigbluebus · 30/03/2020 08:30

I live in a village in a rural county. Yesterday i walked a 3 mile circuit which i have done regularly over the years I've lived here. Usually I might pass a solitary dog walker. Yesterday we passed at least 6 lots of people on the more remote bits of the circuit - including a group of 8 adults ( we didn't let them get close enough to identify who they were but pretty sure they can't have been from one household). In the more built up areas of the village we had to dodge people standing outside their houses smoking, washing cars on the road or doing gardening tasks at their boundary. We managed to keep 2 meters away but it took some doing. There are definitely more people out and about in the locality as they would usually be elsewhere.

So even in rural areas it is quite important to minimise the time outside. If you live in a remote part of the countryside then you are probably ok but there are lots of reports around here that usually quiet places are much much busier.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 30/03/2020 08:31

If it isn't in place in the UK, I can only imagine that it is just a matter of time:
www.msn.com/en-ie/news/coronavirus/ireland-goes-quiet-as-public-adapt-to-coronavirus-lockdown/ar-BB11Tcsm?ocid=spartanntp

EffOrf · 30/03/2020 08:32

Why post something that isn't in place now

EffOrf · 30/03/2020 08:34

WhatchaMaCalllit
You have posted a different country's rules not ours, this is why people should ignore randoms on the internet

MoltonSilver · 30/03/2020 08:35

I suspect that this is thread is intended to start a debate rather than ask a genuine question.

Apolloanddaphne · 30/03/2020 08:36

People really do like to embellish the rules on here. The is no 2km rule and no limit to how long you can be out for. The OP has clearly said she isn't driving anywhere to start her walk. I could walk for hours around where I live and see hardly another soul. I think that would be the same for many people in rural parts of Scotland.

longearedbat · 30/03/2020 08:37

@WhatchaMaCalllit Don't post false information. Ther is no 2km limit.

Nollett · 30/03/2020 08:38

We live rurally so we walk in the very local countryside. Within 1 mile from our house.

If there’s a housing estate next to countryside - everyone will walk there for their daily exercise.

It doesn’t mean that it’s visitors coming!

It’s so funny. People aren’t very clever are they! There’s NO cars here and yet the local police are kicking off because it’s busy. Locals are allowed to walk too. And yes, there’s always about 20m between people.

My general rule is to keep far away from other families & don’t touch any gates or wooden stiles.

I urge anyone to think about the locals before kicking off that the countryside / beach / local beauty spot is busy!!