Until June?!

[Woman31]

Iv read today that these strict rules will be in place until June.

I’m going to go insane before then. How are people going to manage? Surely it can’t be that long? China didn’t take that long ?

My anxiety is so bloody high 😩

[BlueMoon1103]

The most depressing thing for me is that everyone on here with MH issues are telling the rest of you what helps us and what doesn’t and it’s being ignored and we’re still being told to ‘grow a backbone’! Even after trying our hardest to explain how our heads work

[Pendragon132]

It's about flattening the curve so the NHS can cope. It won't cope if everyone spreads the virus. So there will be even longer waits for any kind of appointment. If you still think it's mild, ask someone who has had it - I know a few people and it's the worst illness they have ever experienced. A friend's wife has been in hospital for five days and he can't get any info on how she is.

[Meruem]

I have anxiety and depression but am still able to see past my own needs and wants. We have to do this lockdown to save lives. Simple as that. There is a point with MH issues where you do need to take some responsibility for your own mental well being. It isnt about "suck it up" but equally it's about not giving up either. So you can't do some things that make you feel better? Find new things. Adapt, as all of us have to, whatever the state of our MH. I have seen a huge defeatist attitude on here of people saying they simply can't cope. They're not even trying from what I can see. It's been one week!

[Boudicabooandbulldogs]

I agree, some of the responses not just on here but in other places can exacerbate someone who is already suffering.

I’m a counsellor for an abuse charity I see 9 clients a week for them. I stopped work a day before they closed. We offered phone and online counselling of my 9 clients 4 accepted 3 have actually carried it through. There are reasons counselling and therapy work is done f2f. There are reasons isolating a person has very a negative impact on their health.
Trust me the suicide rate will go up. That people will come out of this much much worse. That’s not even going into what will happen to people in abusive situations. Or the long term impact of austerity on the most vulnerable.

I don’t know what the answer is I’m not an epidemiologist or virologist. Of course we need to protect people, we need this lockdown for the NHS. To have it longer than June for me as a professional is quite scary.

[Pishposhpashy]

The only ones we know for definite have it are the ones ill enough to be hospitalised so of course they are going to be dreadful. There are going to be plenty of mild cases, that much is obvious to anyone.

Meruem

You do realise that many people with severe MH issues literally cannot do as you suggest. They are not able to. Just as if you have no legs you cannot walk.

It. Is. A. Fucking. Illness.

[Pendragon132]

Surely people suffering with their mental health come under an urgent medical appointment category?

[Pishposhpashy]

Nope. I've had all my face to face appointments stopped and I cannot get hold of my medication.

[EasyTarget]

I wonder if there will actually be a rebellion if they try to lock people down for too long.

[Pendragon132]

Is your GP trying to get hold of your medication? Obviously you need to be supported, no one is saying vulnerable people should be left alone to suffer or deteriorate. It should be part of the plan as a whole.

[SouthWestmom]

There is a point with MH issues where you do need to take some responsibility for your own mental well being.

Everyone? All of them? Brilliant then. My son who has severe mental illness, is medicated to the max and awaiting specialist treatment (now on hold) - I'll just tell him to get a grip and have a Google shall I?

[Boudicabooandbulldogs]

@pishposhpashy
Have you been offered any online or telephone support. They are meant to have a duty of care and give you this option.

[SouthWestmom]

And that 'responsibility' is often engaging with professional who will be delivering therapy and taking your meds. Not sure what else you expect them to do.

[Meruem]

Just as if you have no legs you cannot walk

But even in that scenario you have a choice. you can lie around moaning about your lack of legs or you can find other ways of dealing with it. I know it's an illness. I myself have been on 2 lots of anti depressants for a long time. But people are wallowing in it and yes that can be helped. I'm not saying everyone can just make themselves feel fantastic with the power of their mind. But people do need to put some effort in. Not just sit there complaining and waiting for some magical solution. While rejecting everyone's advice on things that could help.

[Pishposhpashy]

Nope, I have been told I am not priority and I am not the only one who has been told that either.

Then we come on sites like this one and are told to stop moaning and get on with it. So you can see how we feel we are just collateral damage in all of this.

I have severe OCD that was largely under control until now. I do not want my son to see me sanitising post or soaking my packaged groceries in fucking milton. So I won't be doing it.

[Pishposhpashy]

Meruem

No you still don't get it. A mother with post partum psychosis cannot just snap out of it with the right amount of mental effort. It simply isn't physiologically possible.

No offence but being on anti depressants is so common as to be normal these days. It doesn't mean you have any understanding of severe mental illness.

[Boudicabooandbulldogs]

@Meruem,

Some people literally cannot take responsibility for their own mental health. The closing of psychotherapy, counselling and support services will lead to more people being sectioned. Hence the changing of the rules regarding sectioning.
Whilst for many patients sectioning is helpful and needed for others it sets in motion a downward spiral that leads to continuous re admissions and a lifetime of care. Stretching an already underfunded and understaffed sector.

[Needsomegoodnews]

Suffering with horrible symptoms of CV for the past 13 days (and still ongoing), I would be willing to do whatever it takes to minimise the chance of family, friends or in fact anyone having to go through this or something potentially much worse. We all have to help each other get through it but it must be done.

[Boudicabooandbulldogs]

@Pishposhpashy,
Oh my goodness, that is actually dry concerning. All current patients are meant to be offered ongoing support.
We should acknowledge that for illnesses like OCD losing even a small amount of control can make their symptoms much worse.
Please check your local Facebook groups as I know some counsellors are offering free/reduced sessions right now.

[MabelMoo23]

I worry about the economy and how that will fare if we are locked down until June. What about people’s jobs? How will we survive?

[Meruem]

But the people with severe MH issues aren't the ones posting. Of course some people have very significant MH issues and often require strong medication, hospitalization etc. That's not the people I'm talking about. I'm talking about the people moaning because they can't get to baby classes or go out for coffee (two things I've seen here in recent days). It isn't the same thing.

[Pishposhpashy]

Of course some people have very significant MH issues and often require strong medication, hospitalization etc. That's not the people I'm talking about. I'm talking about the people moaning because they can't get to baby classes or go out for coffee (two things I've seen here in recent days).

Well I'm neither, but I've been the first and I'd quite like to not be there again.

[FloconDeNeige]

Probably at least until then. Here in Switzerland we started social isolation a week before the UK and were advised it will last, at a minimum, until April 30th. So June, before things start to resume, if we’re lucky!

Can’t see the UK being any different.

[Judystilldreamsofhorses]

STV news have just reported from the CMO that “some measures” will be in place until June.

[jimmyhill]

Makes sense. Shielding for the most vulnerable lasts 12 weeks, and June is "only" nine weeks away.

[OddBoots]

Even if we don't feel mental health is high of the government agenda we know that economics is so they won't limit our potential for economic activity for longer than is medically needed so we know that will only go on as long as it has to.

What ideas do be people have about how to support those with ongoing and with new mental health problems if this needs to go on until the summer or beyond?