MNers are saying the over 70s aren’t allowed out at all not even for daily exercise, is this correct? [Edited by MNHQ at OP's request]

[JustW1lliam]

I’m totally confused as is my mum.

The guidelines say she can have daily exercise as long as she keeps to 2/3 metres distance.

She has shopping delivered, goes nowhere other than short daily exercise walk, has no visitors. Sees nobody.

Is she seriously not aloud her daily exercise either?

Can you link with official advice if this is the case.

No, that isn't correct.

Confusion has arisen because the over-70s were urged to implement the strict social distancing we now have in place, before it was applicable to the wider population. They are now subject to the same social distancing rules as all of us.

There is a separate group of extremely vulnerable people who should not go out at all, and many of these may be over 70, but they are being contacted individually.

allowed

A lot of what MNers are saying is completely wrong at the moment.

Indeed they do.

It's fine to go for a walk, particularly if she lives in a house with her own entrance.

More tricky if she lives in a flat and has to go through communal areas, opening doors, touching lift buttons, etc.
She can still go, but she will have to be much more careful with hand washing, touching her face, etc

Because MN is absolutely the best place to get factual information 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

UK government guidance here:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-on-social-distancing-and-for-vulnerable-people/guidance-on-social-distancing-for-everyone-in-the-uk-and-protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults

When over 70s were first told to stay at home for 12 weeks it sounded like they weren't allowed to go out at all. But these guidelines have toned it down.

Have reported correctly spelling of allowed. Either my brain has gone into lockdown spelling mode or autocorrect. Apologies.

There’s a lot of people getting very excited on here, giving out misinformation OP

Can someone share the link that says the Vulnerable Group are now allowed out? (Not the twelve week group).

Doesn't total lockdown apply only for those with the noted pre-existing health conditions?

Of course she can go out. The link someone has posted is helpful.

Here are the rules in full

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-on-social-distancing-and-for-vulnerable-people/guidance-on-social-distancing-for-everyone-in-the-uk-and-protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults

The over 70s are amongst those who are urged to be particularly stringent, but the rules are the same for them as for all of us:

"We strongly advise you to follow the above measures as much as you can and to significantly limit your face-to-face interaction with friends and family if possible, particularly if you:

are over 70
have an underlying health condition
are pregnant"

Apologies, just seen these had already been linked.

I think a lot of MNers would like it to be correct judging by the ageist posts on here. In fact I think a lot of MNers would like the over 70s to be euthanised!

The guidance I linked to doesn't mention 12 weeks or total lockdown.

Basically it's social distancing which is "strongly advised" for over 70s and "advised" for younger people.

There is a list of conditions and illnesses where it is also "strongly advised" to follow social distancing.

And another list (eg cancer, organ transplant) of people who will be contacted directly by NHS England. Don't know what will happen outside England.

Essentially the over 70s and vulnerable people were subject to special guidance until the general population got put on the same guidance. Then a group of very vulnerable people was created who got a text alerting them. If you aren't in that group then you just follow the general rules.
It's created quite a bit of confusion as the vulnerable group were told there would be help but then it turns out that it is only the very vulnerable which leaves a lot of vulnerable people without their normal ways of helping themselves.

Here's the law. Over 70s are only mentioned in the definition of 'vulnerable' (along with those with specific conditions and pregnant women), and 'vulnerable' people are only referred to in the contexts of being helped and supported.

They are under no specific additional constraints.

Sorry , forgot the link though hopefully everyone knows where it is by now

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/pdfs/uksi202003500_en.pdf

Nope. Lots of bollocks being posted by the armchair neostasi at the moment.

My mum has Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and has not had a text.... she is 75.