Self isolation and outdoor exercise

[Gammeldragz]

I'm confused about this, I'm sure you weren't supposed to go out even for exercise if you are self isolating due to symptoms or someone in household having symptoms.
I even checked the advice the other day for my neighbours as I thought maybe you could, but it said you can't. Checked again today and it says you can exercise if 2m away from others. So they could have been taking the kids out for a walk. Can someone else check this? I'm a nurse and really should be on top of all this, but either it keeps changing or the advice is different in different online sources.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection

If you go out at all with symptoms or/and someone in the house with symptoms you will be fined/jailed.

*If you go out or you go out when someone in your house has symptoms

So why does the government website say you can go out for exercise?

That is for people who don't have the symptoms!

But it's in the section for people with symptoms in the household.
See, this is why I'm confused!

I think that says: you should not go out at all, other than to exercise and do that at a safe distance, because if you don't go near or touch anyone or anything you are not in danger of spreading it.

So, run in a field, walk in an empty street, cycle anywhere, as long as you are alone, you can exercise.

I want people to actually read the government advice I posted, because I also assumed you could not go out. But this says you can. Is it out of date? Says updated 4 days ago.

NHS says if you are in self-isolation, you shouldn't go out, except to exercise, so exercise is fine.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-advice/

And if you are self isolating due to being high risk but with no symptoms you are aloud to go out for excercise.

@myidentitymycrisis thanks, that's what I thought. We live opposite a field, so I thought maybe they can take the kids for a walk (no one is symptomatic, one had a cough start 7 days ago that lasted a few days).

Even if you have or have had symptoms.

It seems clear to me if you apply the rationale that proximity to others is the danger.

It seems to me that you can exercise whatever your condition.

I did not know this and we’ve been going stir-crazy not leaving the house due to mild symptoms! We could actually go out for a walk, who knew?!?

Thanks for that link, Scissorsbike.

I'll just screenshot what it says.

Hope you feel assured now, OP.

Who knew how many ppl in UK have these symptoms so often - I didn't know, anyway.

Yes you can go outside for exercise.
If you read the screenshot chestnut you can see that it IS talking about people with symptoms!

It is bollocks that you can be fined or jailed for leaving the house within 14 days of a family member showing symptoms.
For a start, there is no register of people self isolating so will the police know which jogger to arrest?

Quarantining the whole family after ONE member shows one mild symptom is the right thing to do, but it is a hard thing to do.
Many won't, and will keep the cough their child had last week a secret.
So I am far less worried by the sensible self isolators taking their child out for a socially distant walk than I am about those who have kept their symptoms secret who are still going to the shops etc.

That said, it's so widely misunderstood that I have not left my home at all while self isolating (I don't want other people to think I am breaking the rules, especially as our neighbours have been so kind in dropping off food etc).
But we have a garden. If I didn't, I would take the DC out for fresh air and socially distant exercise, and I would be allowed to.

Even those shielding (which is the 12 week strict isolation for those most vulnerable) can go out for exercise. As long as socially distancing.

A guy on the BBC mentioned it being ok a while ago and Chris Whitty said you should as it aides recovery. Especially as it’s on the lungs, you need to keep moving. Just at a safe distance from anyone else.

Shielding extremely vulnerable people aren’t supposed to go out for anything, including exercise. They can go into their gardens and that’s all.

No wonder so many of the vulnerable are saying "screw this shit" and continuing as they were.

It's very tough for them. My mother is one such. She's 82, recently widowed, with a blood cancer. Very gregarious and outgoing and still active despite it all. Finding it tough.

No wonder so many of the vulnerable are saying "screw this shit" and continuing as they were.

This is from the NHS Soctland webpage for shielding:

"Peoplewho have been given a prognosis of less than six months to live, and some others in special circumstances, could decide not to undertake shielding. This will be a deeply personal decision you may want to discuss with family or others that are close to you. You should phone your GP or specialist to discuss this as well."

It's both sad and very pragmatic. But is basically saying the most acutely vulnerable do have NHS permission to just ignore this whole shitshow, if you're in Scotland.

Interestingly, I cannot find any corresponding clause in the information from NHS England.

Who wants to spend the last few months of their lives hiding in fear?