Death of 21-year-old not recorded as Covid-19

[Orangeblossom78]

Thought this might be of interest

Chloe Middleton: death of 21-year-old not recorded as Covid-19
Source says coroner linked death to coronavirus but hospital took different view.

I thought there was something odd about that case

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/chloe-middleton-death-21-year-old-not-recorded-nhs-covid-19-related

Poor young woman, either way. :(

I do wonder how many people may die from other health conditions but because they have tested positive for CV it’s recorded as that

Isolation brain fog maybe but I don't think that article is clear at all. What exactly happened?

Is this similar to older men dying with rather than from prostate cancer? I can see it might be hard to pinpoint an exact cause of death.

"Her family has been subjected to online abuse and accusations of spreading alarmist news about her death."

DIsgusting
Some people are very aggressive when claiming "scare-mongering", including on MN

The coroner reported it as being related to CV;
the hospital disagreed

As with many diseases, people often die from something else, as an organ fails

It has been reported elsewhere that deaths from CV as reported in the official UK total may only be recorded as such if they happened at hospital, so that they have been monitored for long enough
i.e. not at home or in a care home

If you have well controlled heart disease and get CV which triggers heart failure and subsequent premature death, I think CV should be recorded as cause of death.

The article says that she tested negative for COVID, died of a heart attack.

I agree Disney however she didnt test positive for coronavirus. The coroner recorded it as coronavirus as she had a cough. According to the article anyway.

the reason i am posting is this was all over the front page of the papers yesterday saying a 21 year old with no other conditions had died of the virus, this is obviously wrong. Sad, yes, of course, but to clarify the situation.

Is the coroner suggesting that the test result was a false negative then? Why would she/he take a different view to a test?

A lot of people repeatedly test negative before testing positive, the doctor in China, some on the diamond princess.

I believe the coroner.

They are definitely doing some massaging of figures. Especially with the not counting those who aren't in hospital at the time

Not just those examples either, it's well known that many people test negative before testing positive

Doctors usually cover various things. I have been looking at a lot for my family history as I have been buying them and they often put two possible causes down . In fact for quite few of my family members 2 are on the death cert which is interesting. I suppose a lot of us do die from several causes except one poor ancestor in the 1800s who left 5 children - "being a lunatic hanged herself" it says. She was in her 50s too. It made the papers

"If you have well controlled heart disease and get CV which triggers heart failure and subsequent premature death, I think CV should be recorded as cause of death."

But there's no conclusive proof that she had CV?

Obviously sad that she's died but not too sure why everyone is so keen for it to have been covid.

If there is a dispute I am guessing this may go to an inquest to decide. "Experts" dont always agree. We have no idea who is right here.

One of the key messages around Coronavirus is that people will die due to lower or later intervention for other conditions.

Chloe’s death is desperately sad.

Is the coroner suggesting that the test result was a false negative then? Why would she/he take a different view to a test?

Excess of caution maybe? But don't forget that coroners aren't doctors, or medically trained - they're lawyers.

I don't understand what happened here. So she died from a heart attack but at no point has tested positive for Coronavirus? She just had a cough? So it could have been anything? The coroner just said it was Corona because she was reported to have had a cough, but the medical staff treating her presumably don't believe it was Coronavirus?

Well if she tested negative of covid but she had a cough then because she died, it's a covid death obviously

But if someone had a cough, isolated for 14 days and is now going around telling everyone they've had covid then that is not covid.... Unless they drop dead subsequently even if a 747 falls on them.

Basically, the only outcome of covid must be death otherwise people will just not believe it's covid.

@diddl

I was talking more generally, not about this specific young woman. Sorry, should’ve been more clear. I was rambling a tad!

Most coroners do have a medical degree at a minimum.

People can have undiagnosed heart disease which is only discovered on post mortem. Obviously the virus exacerbated it. Poor girl.