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Cannot believe what friend is doing

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CochonDinde · 26/03/2020 22:51

I have a generally amazing friend, she's very head strong and as such she's seen me through some really tough times with her matter-of-factness and decisiveness.

However, she got sent home from work a few days ago as she had a horrendous cough. Why she went to work in the first place was beyond me. She declared she was (rightly) self-isolating. Then two days ago she told me her husband is bedridden with fever. But just YESTERDAY she's told me that she's going out on Sunday as she's fed up if being cut off from the world? I obviously reminded her that she and her family need to isolate for 14 days from when she became I'll- she's basically laughed at me and told me I'm being ridiculous and that it's all just been blown up in the media. I'm so fucked off as she knows I'm really concerned about close relatives who are vulnerable. Not sure what I can do to change her mind though?

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CochonDinde · 27/03/2020 00:00

Its very clearly stated that it's 14 days. And of course I'm not going to call the police, just wanted to get it off my chest. I'm looking after elderly relatives atm. I also have another thread complaining about folk being crazy mad about people exercising... a sensible approach is required throughout I reckon

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CochonDinde · 27/03/2020 00:04

But yes, I concur with every post that has stated shes a selfish arse

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Thepigeonsarecoming · 27/03/2020 00:04

@CochonDinde it states 7 days from when you first noted symptoms. Anyone else in your household it’s 14 days. This is because you can be asymptotic for upto 7 days prior to developing symptoms

Rubyroost · 27/03/2020 00:06

@Blitzen2 I feel for you, I really do. I have a 3 week old and a 2 year old and I'm terrified whenever my partner leaves the house to go shopping. I don't leave the house except for walks and have passed no one on my walks.

Thepigeonsarecoming · 27/03/2020 00:06
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gingersausage · 27/03/2020 00:07

It’s not 14 bloody days. At least get your facts right. If you have, or are presumed to have because of your symptoms Coronavirus, you only need to isolate for 7 DAYS. It’s the rest of your household that have to stay in for 14 days.

LonginesPrime · 27/03/2020 00:07

Shops. She'll be going shopping

How? Confused All the fun ones are closed!

I guess she could buy a spanner or some cat food...

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 27/03/2020 00:12

OP
You are wrong. It’s seven days if you are symptomatic and 14 days if you have been exposed (14 day max incubation period)
See this Government diagram
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874011/Stay_at_home_guidance_diagram.pdf

AnotherMurkyDay · 27/03/2020 00:23

I bet she's sticking to the 7 days and this is a simple misunderstanding of the self isolation vs family isolation issue

Carriecakes80 · 27/03/2020 00:34

My own Dad is a Paramedic, nearly 70, with one lung. He and his wife are actually telling their (mainly hers) elderly relatives that this is just a bad cold, and that people survived Spanish flu, this is all daft.

I am absolutely beyond livid and reported him and his ex-Nurse wife to the police, there was nothing they could do.

I used to idolise my Dad, however, in recent years due to stupid irresponsible and downright nasty things he has done I disowned him. Then I see on facebook about a week ago that a friend of his and his wifes is sick in Portugal, so they were going to pick her up (my dad runs his own Paramedic service) and bring her home. On a Plane. Full of people.

My brother tried to get it through to him, however, he ended up laughing, saying its all been blown out of proportion, and he posted a picture of him, his wife and her relatives in portugal out drinking when they should have been in, and telling my brother to eff off, he doesn't know what hes talking about, that Boris Johnson would get it sorted as 'its in his best interests'.

For all those lives my dad spent the last 40 years saving people, he could have killed twice that many just by being a selfish twat.

choc1cheese1 · 27/03/2020 01:01

Totally agree with Blitzen2, also on the front line but out in the community, equally don’t want to meet such selfish people... 😳😥

Dontjumptoconclusions · 27/03/2020 01:26

OP have you or could you drill some sense into your friend? Send her th gov website or send her the death stats everyday? Or something practical?

Catgirl76 · 27/03/2020 06:53

Loads of older generation not taking it seriously. I despair. Family members of mine are going for drives to the beach ! Then walking along proms. I hope the police catch them .

ProperVexed · 27/03/2020 07:07

This is a useful diagram for the timings.

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Yester · 27/03/2020 07:22

That diagram is bollocks sorry propervexed. We had almost exactly that scenario. We have no way of knowing if Dad and Mum have the same illness. when DH started symptoms after me we started the 14 day thing again as DH could have picked up actual CV19 before swlf isolating as the thing can take 24 days to develop.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 27/03/2020 07:45

Yester
That diagram is in line with the Government advice.
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874011/Stay_at_home_guidance_diagram.pdf

oncemorewithfeeling99 · 27/03/2020 07:51

It's actually 7 days from your symptoms starting and government advice specifically says you may still have a cough but you can go out.

I'm not clear from your post, she could still be early but might help to have the correct facts.

Casino218 · 27/03/2020 07:54

7 days isolation from symptoms. Just tell her she's a selfish fuck.

PrincessConsueIaBananaHammock · 27/03/2020 08:08

Will it be 7 days when she goes out?

Spam88 · 27/03/2020 09:31

@yester the diagram is from Public Health England...

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CochonDinde · 27/03/2020 09:36

The diagram is dead on as it highlights exactly why the whole household needs to isolate for 14 days - we don't know that person 1 actually didn't have the virus, but person 2 did, therefore the 14 days covers is for everyone.

She was planning to take the kids out with her. In any case, she's feeling ill again, so is now understanding why she needs to stay in.

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Yester · 27/03/2020 11:01

There has been lots of criticism of that diagram for the reason I pointed out. Public Health England told my children's school only 19 days ago that my children were fine to attend school despite me having all the CV19 symptoms. I sent them for 2 days when I was so ill I couldn't think straight then went against Public England advice and kept them all school. 2 of them now have had the same illness as me. Public England make mistakes.

Mookie81 · 27/03/2020 13:48

Actually * @gingersausage* when I called 111 due to symptoms that worsened I was told by them to isolate for 14 days.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 27/03/2020 14:10

Government advice

If you live with others and you are the first in the household to have symptoms of coronavirus, then you must stay at home for 7 days
If anyone else in the household starts displaying symptoms, they stay at home for 7 days from when their symptoms appeared, regardless of what day they are on in the original 14-day isolation period. Household members who remain well stay in self isolation for 14 days due to maximum incubation period, calculated from day 1 of first symptomatic person
Household members do not need to restart the clock if other members become symptomatic during the 14 days self-isolation

See my link above

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