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Will this forever make the world more insular.

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Angryrant55 · 26/03/2020 13:25

I think yes because it's likely the era of global tourism is over for good- only essential business travel and family visits will resume when flights return - for the rest of us I don't think going on holiday abroad will ever be permitted again due to the risk of another virus even if Covid -19 is eliminated.

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NuffSaidSam · 26/03/2020 13:25

No, for a bit. Not forever. Things will be back to normal eventually.

homesweetbristol · 26/03/2020 13:29

No, not at all. That's quite dramatic. A few low cost airlines may go bankrupt but new ones will take their places eventually.

Milomonster · 26/03/2020 13:33

No not at all. As soon as this shit is over, I’ll be on a plane and will appreciate my travel even more. I don’t think much will change at all. We will revert back to being selfish bastards whilst recalling the speed and power at which the Tory government was able to help the most vulnerable after bringing it to its knees.

Angryrant55 · 26/03/2020 14:30

I do - for a start a lot of the people who use holiday companies will decide to holiday at home rather than book hotels and flights separately.

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Dongdingdong · 26/03/2020 14:33

because it's likely the era of global tourism is over

If this were to happen then I don’t think it would be a bad thing. The impact of global tourism on the environment is horrendous. But regrettably I think we will quickly revert back to our selfish ways once this is over.

Angryrant55 · 26/03/2020 15:16

Through equally without tourism people will become more insular.

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Waxonwaxoff0 · 26/03/2020 15:29

I don't think global tourism will be over. There will be more people than ever desperate to go abroad when this is all over. Of course it will be allowed to continue, the economy will need a boost.

IcedPurple · 26/03/2020 15:36

No not at all. As soon as this shit is over, I’ll be on a plane and will appreciate my travel even more. I don’t think much will change at all.

Same. I travel a lot - for work - at this time of year and obviously that's not going to happen. But once I get the opportunity I'll again I'll appreciate it all the more. In fact, I may finally get around to going on those holidays I'd long considered but kept putting off.

This crisis will lead to a recession and many airlines, hotels, tour companies etc will suffer and some will collapse. However, within a few years this will likely be seen as just a blip. It's unlikely to lead to lasting changes.

Angryrant55 · 26/03/2020 15:57

It might never be fully over. The Vaccine will take several years to cover everyone in a country. Once borders close they tend to take a lot longer to reopen.

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Purpleclownsuit · 26/03/2020 15:58

I think the opposite. It’s going to make people appreciate what we had and make the absolute most of it when everything’s back to normal.

Angryrant55 · 26/03/2020 16:29

China seems to have shut it's borders and i cant see them reopening again to tourists.

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Angryrant55 · 26/03/2020 16:35

As they will never want to have an outbreak again - it's not a major loss to their economy thorough.

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IcedPurple · 26/03/2020 16:36

It might never be fully over. The Vaccine will take several years to cover everyone in a country. Once borders close they tend to take a lot longer to reopen.

There are thousands of viruses out there. This one isn't particularly virulent, it's just that we have no immunity to it yet. A vaccine will likely be available in the next two years or less, and 'herd immunity' will likely kick in too. The world has seen much more dangerous pandemics than this and lived to tell the tale. To say it will never be over is ridiculously melodramitic.

Angryrant55 · 26/03/2020 16:38

Through in poorer places they won't be the money for the vaccine to go to everyone.

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IcedPurple · 26/03/2020 16:42

Through in poorer places they won't be the money for the vaccine to go to everyone.

Everyone won't need to be vaccinated. Many will have the disease with only mild - or no - symptoms and as a result will likely be immune at least in the short-term.

There are all sorts of contagious diseases out there. They don't make global travel grind to a halt. Why would this be any different once a substantial proporiton of the population have some form of immunity?

Angryrant55 · 26/03/2020 16:47

True - but I just can see governments thinking it be easier to replace tourism as part of their economy than risk another outbreak of another virus.

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IcedPurple · 26/03/2020 17:05

True - but I just can see governments thinking it be easier to replace tourism as part of their economy than risk another outbreak of another virus.

This pandemic was not caused by tourism.

A better plan would be to shut down those disgusting 'wet' markets in China.

Wingedharpy · 26/03/2020 17:15

Trouble is, those wet markets are all over Asia, not just China.
The World Health Organisation really does need to bring some pressure to bear on those countries that allow them, though, whether WHO has any teeth in this is another matter.

There is a lot of money to be made in trading in the wet markets and just making them illegal won't work.
Street drugs are illegal in most countries but it doesn't stop the market in them.

Don't know what the answer is.

IcedPurple · 26/03/2020 17:17

I think the trade in wild animals is already illegal in China, but there's a loophole for those animals traded for 'medicinal' purposes.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/03/2020 17:20

I'm not sure about "more insular" overall, but I can't see it doing tourism to China any good

Only today a Chinese community facility in my own city has been vandalised, daubed with slogans I'm not going to repeat on here Sad

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