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Gas safety check

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Hidingtonothing · 26/03/2020 10:51

Our housing association want to come and carry out our yearly gas safety check today, I have checked and they still want to go ahead. Nothing has been said about social distancing and they haven't even asked if we have anyone self isolating and I'm feeling a bit uneasy now. Would you let it go ahead (know it's a legal requirement/for our safety anyway) and how would you go about enforcing social distancing if the engineer doesn't do so automatically?

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HeIenaDove · 27/03/2020 15:53

Look at it this way If they insist on doing the gas safety check that also means the HA cant say that they will delay a repair due to the pandemic should you need something urgent fixed.

Ive seen conflicting advice on this though.

HeIenaDove · 27/03/2020 16:02

www.insidehousing.co.uk/news/gas-safety-check-clarity-needed-as-associations-struggle-with-social-distancing-measures-65773

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Gas safety check clarity needed as associations struggle with social distancing measures

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26/03/20
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BY DOMINIC BRADY

Housing sector figures have called for clarity over statutory gas safety checks as access to properties is reduced during the coronavirus outbreak, with some pushing for an extension on the length of time between checks on gas appliances

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Pressure is growing on the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) to extend gas safety certificates from 12 to 18 months to stop them expiring as contractors and housing association teams try to adhere to the government’s social distancing measures.

A number of housing associations have moved to an emergency repairs only model but gas safety officers are still required to complete their annual checks as ordered by government agency HSE.

Keith Simpson, chair of the Direct Works Forum, which represents associations and councils that deliver their own repairs and maintenance works, said gas servicing is becoming an issue for its members.

He told Inside Housing: “The major problem is gas servicing. Members are all putting pressure on the HSE via Gas Safe Register to get some clear guidance on it.

“Some people are trying to continue but tenants won’t let them in and some of the operatives don’t want to go in, and they’ve got no clear guidance.”

Landlords are required under Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 to have all gas appliances serviced every 12 months.

A number of housing associations have recently breached the Home Standard for failing to carry our essential checks, including those for gas.

Jon Slade, director at Campbell Tickell, told Inside Housing: “There’s still no definitive word on how gas safety certification will adapt to the situation.

“There is talk of perhaps the term of gas certificates being extended from 12 to 18 months but that’s not confirmed.”

Updated guidance from Gas Safe Register, the official gas registration body for the UK, on 25 March said: “We have continued to operate gas safety inspections and investigations, focusing on the highest risk.”

In “high-risk” cases, tradespeople entering properties are expected to keep a minimum of two metres apart from other people, wash hands frequently and wipe down all surfaces, the guidance said.

The issues around gas safety checks come as housing associations across the country are reducing their repairs operations in order to stem the spread of the virus. Great Places, Wythenshawe Community Housing Group and Plus Dane Housing are just some of the associations which have said they are carrying out emergency repairs only.

A lack of protective gear for staff is also a major issue, with associations struggling to source it and suppliers in some cases hiking prices. In a WhatsApp group of chief executives, summarised by consultancy Campbell Tickell, bosses warned even emergency repairs could be halted if the issue is not resolved

There are also concerns that local contractors laying off staff and a lack of materials could hamper work. Self-isolation due to illness is an increasingly serious issue for repairs teams.

One organisation’s maintenance team is understood to have 20% of its staff off, while others are operating with between 4% and 8% of staff unwell. These figures are expected to grow

Alan Long, executive director at Mears Group, said that the group which carries out repairs work for several housing association and council clients was working with partners to establish what emergency work entailed.

He said urgency of works will be judged in relation to a tenant’s circumstances as some issues that are not urgent for some tenants may be for others depending on their physical capabilities

Alistair McIntosh, chief executive of the Housing Quality Network, said: “Everywhere under the sun is struggling to get hold of PPE equipment,” and suggested this problem reflected a “total failure of the current procurement model”.

Mr Simpson agreed: “PPE is becoming very, very scarce. Masks, gloves and sanitiser have been ordered but officials are not confident that they will arrive, which will restrict their work even more.”

Mr Long said that Mears staff are well-equipped at moment but added the situation is “going to get worse”.

Gas Safe Register and the HSE have been approached for comment

MrsSnitchnose · 27/03/2020 16:06

Our HA is still going ahead with them but reviewing on a daily basis. They are performing only urgent repairs inside the home at the minute

HeIenaDove · 27/03/2020 16:28

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Was threatened with legal action yesterday for not letting Liberty Gas Eng in for safety gas check through landlord Magenta Living. 3 of us have visible symptoms. Been told I have to let him in or go to court. Feel sorry for the guy
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Different landlord, but same here with Liberty Gas safety check. Phoned to postpone service as I have symptoms and husband is in high-risk group, and they got pretty stroppy about it.

iwanttoshakesomeppl · 27/03/2020 16:34

Another one here for liberty gas rang and moved the appointment but can only do it by two weeks! Surely these aren't urgent checks and can wait a couple of months.

HeIenaDove · 27/03/2020 16:39

Ive seen ppl making the point on Twitter that if MOT checks can be extended why cant gas safety checks.

HeIenaDove · 27/03/2020 16:40

LG have always treated tenants like crap.

swapsicles · 27/03/2020 16:43

Mine was due on 17th, the guy popped round and stood away from the door, he asked if I had been in contact with anyone with symptoms as if I had he would rearrange. I told him I work with the public so couldn't be sure (not healthcare or caring though) he quite happily rearranged and went on his way

Eeyoresstickhouse · 27/03/2020 16:47

My mum who is in complete isolation had hers done last week. She was unsure but to be this is an essential. What's the point in isolating and then getting killed by carbon monoxide?

The gas man came in washed his hands straight away. The put on gloves, and cleaned the taps and handles with his own dettol spray. My mum stayed in the bedroom while he did her boiler and gas fire. He then took his gloves outside and mum saw him spraying his hands with dettol and her door handle. Bless that gas man!

Hidingtonothing · 29/03/2020 02:07

It went fine ABitOdd, engineer had gloves, mask and sanitizer and implemented social distancing himself which reassured me. I stayed in another room while he did the necessary, then he cleaned everything he'd touched and I saw him bag his gloves etc when he got outside. Not sure what would have happened if we'd been self isolating or shielding though as I was also told I would only be able to postpone for a couple of weeks.

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