Please fill in this medical history form for all your family

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Help the NHS out. Please fill in this Medical history form put together by a doctor friend. Here is the original thread and information on how to do it incase there are any changes.

www.facebook.com/510116623/posts/10158063405551624/

As cases start to peak, you will be seen by medical staff working tirelessly who won’t have time to get your notes / read your notes / you might be seen in non hospital buildings or at a different GP. Having a summary gives medical staff a great starting point. If you’re struggling to breathe it saves you answering and it also stops the amount of virus you are spreading over staff.

This helps if you’re in a car accident or have Coronovirus. Please fill it in even if you are well to help the, save time. The doctors will still check for themselves any important information, but please do this to help them and you. #helpthemhelpus #helptheNHS

If anyone has any hospital contacts/public health England contacts, please consider asking them to put something out as it will help save lives, of both patients and staff.

@Menora please feel free to tell the original person that think it will save his patients lives that it isn’t needed and he should stop trying to get his trust to share this when he is seeing patients in a car park.

The point is there won’t be time to look up portal when this peaks.

Ok look I work in the NHS and absolutely no one would want this

Firstly they will contact their GP to fill this out as most patients do not have a clue about their allergies or past history at least not accurately and certainly not an 80yo with 80 years of medical history

Secondly this is doubling up what is already documented on everyone’s summary care record and is just completely not needed

By all means scare people into thinking they need this - a medic will just look you up on the portal for your basic details - which has all this info on it!

None of my doctors would feel even remotely safe prescribing for a patient or treating them based on this piece of paper

It’s actually dangerous

What if they were taking some meds, forgot, the doctor treated them with someone that was contraindicated do you think the GMC would accept the legalities of ‘well it was written on Mr Bloggs piece of paper so I didn’t bother checking the SCR’

Maybe someone else will come along who is a qualified professional and give us their opinion on it

Menora Ambulance services can not access this. We occasionally have access to an IBIS record but for hardly any of our patients. Either we have to ask ALL those questions or try to find it in care folders/hospital letters etc. I think it's a good idea. Along with any DNACPRs or POA documents.

Do you have a smart card?

Perhaps this is my south east region but all clinicians from the ambulance service to the local hospitals and Gp’s and community services all have smartcards to access the SCR for this reason

Seems a bit weird to be wandering around with a (what will eventually be) tatty piece of paper with sensitive information on? At the trust I work in, the ambulance on the scene does a lot of the primary digging - if the case is critical then life saving measures are implemented first and then once stable investigations into carers etc are done when at a point of discharge planning. Drug allergies etc can be looked up on the computer system. Not saying its a bad idea but a printed piece of paper feels insecure and not entirely reliable

Most patients will write pointless waffle all over the form and wont understand the questions and we will still need to check it all to confirm, it's a nice idea but it wont be useful. It's also something easily lost or left around and could be the cause of many mistakes.

@Menora this came from Wales.

No one is asking someone to prescribe something like high dose pain killers or insulin based on a patients word. It’s just to give a head start when you are triaging people. Diabetic/asthmatic/marathon runner. Ok. When they know who’s notes to have a read through first.

Have a look how many ambulances there are in the Welsh trusts and how long the drive time is to hospital and you think all covid patients are going to arrive triaged by ambulance? What about all the people coming in anyway for other conditions? All the people like those with addisons who might need it let people know and they can’t speak? In an ideal world this isn’t needed. In wales staff thought they needed this and asked for it to be shared to help them help others. Great if this is all over by tomorrow, but not if it gets like Italy. They have a bigger bed capacity than the U.K.,

Yes an official patient portal document/clinical record would be ideal. It doesn’t exist in Wales.

It probably would have helped to specify this was for Wales!

I agree. I think this an unnecessary task.

As someone that is regularly admitted to hospital, I've been located on the system. I have had three non stemi MIs and multiple stents. ECG readings always show up as normal.

I'm always advised to be taken in via resus, then assessed with two lots of blood tests to ascertain if a cardiac event. Last discharge summary works for paramedics. They then do the rest.

Menora no, and I'm in the South East. When a patient gets to hospital they access records if they've been there before but when we turn up to a patient's house we go in blind 99 percent of the time.

@Absentwomen a discharge summary is great, you have something to show someone, most people won’t have anything to show them.

Also all hospitals today seem to have put out no visiting and I assume that’s going to mean no accompanying people in the decontamination tents popping up outside hospital to bring in patients in.

But please let me know where to come to your hospital where to will all have time to go and read up on things and charities can stop advising their members with rarer diseases to put something together for if they have a crisis, in this current crisis.

All those people currently in their holiday homes better travel back to their base hospital for 5hours in the car when they need hospital level care.

@Menora you know Wales spent millions then decided not to go electronic as it was a waste of money, they don’t have smart cards?

I understand the idea behind this but if you have a health condition that would impact upon the way you’re treated (diabetes or allergies, for example), wearing a medic alert is the way to go.

Can someone please C&P it into this thread?

My son's medical notes are as thick as a brick.

He has a hospital passport, I would encourage anyone with a medically vulnerable child to ensure they have something similar (you can use an online template). Ours is kept in the bag we have packed in case of an emergency hospital trip.

Good for Wales. Works very well here
Paramedics included.
It is a shame if localities have not invested in technology and joining services because this is exactly what it is needed for
Even social care can access joint records here now.

111 can also access SCR and send electronic summaries as can all the hospitals via NHS mail

If the CCG where you live has not invested in these things then get a medic alert and if you are housebound/vulnerable you should have some kind of care plan at home or you can ask for a SCR from your GP. If you have an elderly parent then this might be something to do for them

I just do not advise most of the U.K. on Mumsnet to spend their time preciously compiling this list to laminate (needs to be kept up to date as well and be accurate) and bothering their GP for the info - which people will do. It is also not great for GDPR purposes either personally

seems very reasonable,

@menora everyone wanted wales to bring it in, they are all regretting they didn’t. People don’t know how to do those things you are suggesting. This was a colleagues way to help out, the influx has started. Great that you where you work you have a robust system, enough PPE and enough ambulances and ventilators that you don’t need to ask your family and friends to do anything like this. Medical alert bracelets hold a small amount of information or need internet/phone access.

@hazeyjane That’s great! And something official is far far better if you can do that.

@Thelnebriati from the original Facebook thread

Personal Details
-Full Name
-Date of Birth
-Address
-GP (Name, address, phone number)
-Next of Kin (Name, relationship, phone number)
-Height and Weight

Medical History
-Anything diagnosed by a hospital/GP/medical practitioner
-Anything currently under investigation
-Anything you take medication for
-Anything you were about to go and ask your GP about/concerns
-Any significant medical events/hospital admissions
-Anything mental health related

Operations/Surgery
-What you had done, and if known rough date/which hospital
-Any problems you had during surgery or anaesthetic

Medications
-Anything prescribed by a GP/hospital. Name, dose and how often you take it
-Anything “over the counter” like pain killers/vitamins/herbal remedies
-Any recreational drug use, you won’t be judged or reported it just helps to look after you
-Anything recently stopped/changed
-I smoke/vape X per day/an ex-smoker of X years
-I drink X units per week

Allergies
-Medication name and what happens if you take it
-Any non drug allergies or food allergies and what happens and what your rescue plan is

Consultants / Specialists
-Name, Specialty, Hospital, Secretaries contact number if known, when last seen if know

Care Needs
-I usually live alone/with partner/family/in a care home etc
My Job is X
-I am independent walking/use a stick/wheelchair
-I wear glasses/use a hearing aid/dentures
-I need help to wash/dress/eat/communicate/use the toilet
-Any mental health considerations
-I have a carer for X

Dietary Needs
-Special medical diets
-Allergies and the effect/do you carry an epi pen
Intolerances (not just a preference for a particular variety of bread)
Special diets for swallowing problems

My Normal Values
-My Peak flow is X
-My Last Blood pressure was X
-Anything relevant to your conditions

What you need to know about me
-Any specific care plans for you conditions
-Any recent significant test results/investigations awaited