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Am I allowed to go for JUST a drive?

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Teaandtoastforbreakfast29 · 24/03/2020 06:49

Apologies in advance for adding another thread to the 4729859 already.
I'm just looking for clarification.
My little boy is 3, diagnosed ASD. He hasn't napped in bed in over a year. He doesn't even nap much but sometimes falls asleep in the car. Does that mean I can't even take him for a drive to let him sleep for 20 minutes? Some days he's up at 5am and does need a quick doze to tide him over. He's also non verbal and has global development delay so wouldn't understand if I explain to him.

It would literally be quick drive in the car, not stopping or going anywhere, seeing anyone etc. I'm just wondering. If I can't, I can't but what would you do in this situation?

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IdblowJonSnow · 24/03/2020 09:11

I would do it in your circumstances.

lemonsandlimes123 · 24/03/2020 09:11

And there is far more stupidity on the thread than rudeness.

twosoups1972 · 24/03/2020 09:11

If you're not getting out of the car, you will not come into contact with anyone else and the car provides a physical barrier.

I'm not sure I buy the accident risk. You could still have an accident or be run over as a pedestrian walking with a buggy.

JustInCaseCakeHappens · 24/03/2020 09:12

So next step is heavy fines, and army to help out police forces isn't it?

Until people get slammed with a £4,000 fine (see Belgium...), they think they are special and rules don't apply to them.

It's depressing, I am all in favour of the lockdown, but wishing it could be as short as possible, why making things worst voluntarily? Just why.

ArriettyJones · 24/03/2020 09:14

Yes that’s right I’m some kind of strange spiv trying to sell comfort to autistic children on the black market @lemonsandlimes123 For profit probably Hmm

Hence my “angle” and my pencil moustache.

I CBA to talk to you if you CBA to read.

Some of you should really be ashamed of your tone to mothers in difficult circumstances, though.

Xenia · 24/03/2020 09:16

Yes not least because I believe the new laws are not yet in force even though the state would like you to follow them. As you can see from this (which is just about which businesses should close ) some measures from last week are in force but the new ones require I think the Coronavirus Bill to get royal assent.

More importantly you can travel to care for someone and you could probably argue driving the baby to get it to fall asleep or a child falls under that. perhaps carry with you details of his disability eg doctor's report in case you are stopped.

DowntownAbby · 24/03/2020 09:17

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KoalasandRabbit · 24/03/2020 09:28

I would have thought that wasn't allowed. Can see it's difficult. I have an older one with ASD - mine was OK with sleep so this may not help much but he used to always fall asleep anytime we had the BabyTV channel on - the ones were it just says things like a blue triangle 1 minute pause a red square and it just goes on like that for about an hour. He would watch it for the shapes. Hope you find a solution, if you go on SN threads here someone may have more ideas.

lemonsandlimes123 · 24/03/2020 09:28

Arrietty - Sorry your response makes no sense at all. I have no idea why you are rambling about spivs and profiteering. Very odd.

Divebar · 24/03/2020 09:28

*I despair at people's pigheaded unwillingness to follow strict orders given to try to protect as many people as possible.

It's disgusting. It really is*

Every thread is someone arguing why the rules shouldn’t apply to them. Everyone appears to “special”. The dog that needs 3 walks a day, the person who must cycle 40 miles because otherwise it’s not a proper workout, the bloody fake nails that need to be removed otherwise her nails could be permanently damaged. I’m so sick of it. I sincerely hope they introduce severe fines for this madness.
Sorry OP.... your kid is bouncing off the walls I get it but this is it the solution. If you have a RTA you’re taking medical staff away from other things for something avoidable.

SarahInAccounts · 24/03/2020 09:40

If you have a RTA you’re taking medical staff away from other things for something avoidable.

Or maybe an alien will abduct you, OP. Wink

twosoups1972 · 24/03/2020 09:45

Is there less risk of a pedestrian accident than a RTA?

ArriettyJones · 24/03/2020 09:46

@SarahInAccounts 🤣😂

BirdandSparrow · 24/03/2020 09:47

Hopefully these things will be clarified in time. In Spain we are not allowed out at all, not even for a walk. After a few days they decided it was too difficult for children with ASD and so an exception was made for them and those with a diagnosis can now go out for short walks without being fined. So hopefully, these things will gradually get ironed out.

twosoups1972 · 24/03/2020 09:48

Thinking about it, we don't NEED to go out for exercise, there are plenty of options for home exercise even if you live in one room.

Or maybe should have said you can go out for a walk only if you don't have a garden or outdoor space?

myidentitymycrisis · 24/03/2020 09:49

Does this fits the “care for a vulnerable “ criteria?

Flaxmeadow · 24/03/2020 09:50

...we have a big garden, trampoline, slide, climbing frame etc.

You're in a fortunate position. I know families who live on victorian terraced streets. With no yard, front or back. They will not be able to go outside at all

Shaunthesheep34 · 24/03/2020 09:52

Police are stopping cars in my area, if you are driving about with no valid reason you are getting fined. I don't think yours is a valid reason and might get fined, not worth it, go for a walk.

myidentitymycrisis · 24/03/2020 09:52

I work with those with profound ASD and some do need to go out for a walk.

For example if the risk assessment based on significant harm to child or their carer if this doesn’t happen.

This is why children with SEN are still going to school

OnUp · 24/03/2020 10:00

All of IGNORANT replies on here.

Yes this is a medical need.
Not just toddler nap time.

People with ASD often lack melatonin, the hormone that regulates sleep.
Parents often have mental breakdowns as a result in the support groups in my area, because of the sleep deprivation and full time care needs of a child when you've had zero rest.
It's not a choice.
It's not irresponsible.

Care needs have been explicitly allowed within the rules.
Or would you deny other disability groups and frail and eldery their care at the moment?

If the army are drafted in, then you'll still be able to administer care and disability needs. Because disability law still applies and it's a reasonable adjustment.

SO MANY REPLIES FROM THOSE WITH NO IDEA!

DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 24/03/2020 10:02

Could some creative scheduling help? Would it be possible to combine shopping with his nap? You won't manage it every day, but if he has, say 1 or 2 naps a week that would help. Is there someone who could stay with him in the car while you grabbed essential supplies? Or you stay in the car and they go in?

SarahInAccounts · 24/03/2020 10:04

Police are stopping cars in my area, if you are driving about with no valid reason you are getting fined. I don't think yours is a valid reason and might get fined, not worth it, go for a walk.

Where is that? Our local police say the powers haven't been granted yet. And when they are they won't be stopping random cars who are most likely on their way to Tesco. Daft.

dorapicasso · 24/03/2020 10:05

When I read some of the posts on this thread I honestly think we need the rigorous regime implemented in Spain. Some people just think the rules don't apply to them. You cannot just get into your car and go for a drive. You are required to stay at home; there are only 4 reasons you are allowed to leave.

Lycidas · 24/03/2020 10:05

‘I understand it’s hard’ - no you fucking don’t. This isn’t a merry jolly stroll. OP do what works for your child’s ASD needs.

Teaandtoastforbreakfast29 · 24/03/2020 10:11

Guys, seriously. People need to read the replies. I'm NOT going.
I've asked a question, read the replies, and taken the suggestions on board about using the stroller which I'll try later.

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