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Surely you cannot move kids between houses??

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CochonDinde · 24/03/2020 01:35

Or that's how I heard it, loud and clear. My daughter is with me. So my daughters gutted and her dad (who I'm divorced from but really close to still), is gutted. But clearly that was the advice, unless I'm missing something? Admin on a FB group with a huge following are mis-reading the guidance and stating that children should be moved between homes. The fact that people will inevitably die from this misinformation is really pissing me off to say the least.

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Kaykay066 · 24/03/2020 08:24

I work shifts on a ward as a nurse who will be dealing with children with covid 19, my ex is police in custody where he could come into contact so neither of us can not go to work so our children need to go back and forth between our homes but won’t be going out anywhere else.

CochonDinde · 24/03/2020 08:25

Totally understandable in that situation KayKay Flowers

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FirTree31 · 24/03/2020 08:26

Michael Gove clarified this morning, children under 18 CAN move between two parent households. It's been all over good morning Britain. Its also been added to gov. UK site, no longer as footnote. It makes sense, children are already in a very bizarre world just now, taking a parent away will only exacerbate this. They will be (should) travelling in isolation. So yes they can move between households and don't need to be 'vulnerable'

Planetzog · 24/03/2020 08:31

Michael Gove said on BBC Breakfast very clearly this morning that yes, children under 18 with separated parents can go to both parents. He apologised for being unclear on Good Morning Britain.

CochonDinde · 24/03/2020 08:38

Now cleared up, thanks Smile I think my DD will just be staying at mine. I'm working from home and shopping for at-risk parents. DD's dad will be going to work, so it just seems sensible to break that chain from his colleagues to my parents. No doubt advice will change again in coming days!

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FirTree31 · 24/03/2020 08:50

I was a bit disheartened to see parents trying to justify keeping their children in this routine, single parents having to apologise for their place in the world again, never mind the construction workers, ICE CREAM Vans still Working!

AvocadoPrime · 24/03/2020 09:02

I wonder if anyone can offer me advice.. my DS father lives and works in london (still at work), not been social distancing. He lives with two over 70s. How would this work? Is it better that DS stays solely with me for a while or should I still let him go. My heart says he should stay here but I know it is going to cause arguments.

TooTrusting · 24/03/2020 09:57

@Avocado please see my advice in my post at about 3am.

TooTrusting · 24/03/2020 10:00

@WorriedWorrier6
I do not think you would be found in breach if you refuse. 900 mile round trip not necessary and will involve visits to petrol stations, stopping for loo breaks etc. The advice re contact continuing clearly assumes parents do not live very far way from each other.

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AvocadoPrime · 24/03/2020 10:16

Thank you @tootrusting so there are vulnerable people and so it would be better to keep DS here as I thought.

TooTrusting · 24/03/2020 10:25

Avocado and Worrier
As long as you are sensible and have genuine solid reasons for altering the regime and keeping the children in one household the court isn't going to be interested.
The police cannot enforce a contact order unless it has a penal notice on it (which is v rare). It's a civil matter. I doubt they will get involved. If they do, explain your reasoning. They can only remove your DCs if they are at risk which they aren't. Ignore him, it's just hot air.
Both of you should write to F with a fully reasoned explanation for departing from the bog standard guidance so you can demonstrate you explained yourself in full. Urge F to be sensible. This isn't about him, this is about the whole country. Offer daily Skype/FaceTime. You've probably written in these terms already but do it again. "Write" includes WhatsApp/email/text etc.

If F tries to apply it will be weeks before there is a hearing.

TooTrusting · 24/03/2020 10:27

Impress upon them that they are DC's F forever and a small blip like this is not going to ruin their relationship even though it's hard for everyone in the short term.

TooTrusting · 24/03/2020 10:28

Include reassuring words about how supportive you are of his relationship with DCs, but hard as it is you all need to consider the wider picture.

TooTrusting · 25/03/2020 15:11

Would you look at that? The President of the Family Division agrees with me.

www.judiciary.uk/announcements/coronavirus-crisis-guidance-on-compliance-with-family-court-child-arrangement-orders/

Children MAY move between households but do not HAVE TO where there is a sound and cogent reason not to.

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