Surely you cannot move kids between houses??

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Or that's how I heard it, loud and clear. My daughter is with me. So my daughters gutted and her dad (who I'm divorced from but really close to still), is gutted. But clearly that was the advice, unless I'm missing something? Admin on a FB group with a huge following are mis-reading the guidance and stating that children should be moved between homes. The fact that people will inevitably die from this misinformation is really pissing me off to say the least.

no, there is a footnote that says that children under 18 can move between the parents' homes. However, if you are both in agreement that its for the best, it makes sense to limit contact for now. But the actual advice doesn't say that.

See my post on the other thread
The guidance is out now

Children can go between parents homes

The footnote only relates to "vulnerable" though, doesn't it? It's not a definition of vulnerable

"Where applicable" though, relating to vulnerable children?

As in here:

I don’t think so as it’s to provide care or to help a vulnerable persons rather than
To care for a vulnerable person

Almost seems like semantics but I think would be taken as a distinction

I think it's the 'to provide care for' bit, and the 'where applicable' because not all children have parents in two houses.

DDs dad is still working, specsavers and likely to bring it home, I'm working one day a week at school. If we were in full isolation I'd find it easier to suggest that she stay with me but we are both putting her at risk.

I wont be having my boys for a few weeks. I'd rather them stay at their dads and facetime me but I do actually have symptoms so x

I'm lying awake as I'm a co-parent and a nurse (I don't think I'll be asked to work on covid wards but I'll still be coming into contact with lots of people). My ex and his partner are working from home. I'm also living with my parents 65 and 66 in good health but my mum has asthma due to my house being renovated.

It would make sense for the kids to go to their dads for 3 weeks and me to move out of my mums to keep my family safe wouldn't it?

I just keep crying at the thought of it all :(

Augustlou sorry you are feeling so down about it such hard choices
And you are one of the very many vital nhs workers for whom we need to do all we can to help you do what you do

See here -
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/874738/Fulllguidanceonnstayingatthomeanddawayfromm_others.pdf

See footnote 1 to the 3rd bullet point under para 1.

This makes it clear that you are allowed to transport children between homes for contact. The footnote was added after this was first published at 8.30pm, presumably in response to the query having been raised by countless parents. I expect CAFCASS will issue formal advice tomorrow (it's current advice is based on the previous self distancing so is out of date).

I am a family lawyer and this is the advice I will be giving (where parents cannot agree). So one parent cannot use the lockdown to say that the DCs must stay with them and can't see the other parent. Unless there is a genuine reason why moving between homes would represent a genuine increased risk - eg lengthy journey via pubic transport, or there are symptoms in the household, or a vulnerable person in one of the households - then the children can and should travel between homes. The court will follow the govt advice and apply common sense.

Many parents will be sensible and do what feels right, even if that means leaving the DCs in one home. But many will argue about it. For the ones arguing, that is the govt's official advice, that DCs can move between homes for contact.

@augustlou30 So sorry. But you are an absolute angel for what you do

Thanks, @TooTrusting, that clears things up.

To me the addendum of (1) refers to children with vulnerabilities or medical needs.

Hopefully it will be clarified.

Michael Gove just stated on bbc that children can move between households.

Obviously if there is illness in one household they cant

Michael Gove has just clarified on BBC Breakfast that children under 18 can be swapped between parents but this should be done as little as possible.
He admitted that what he said on GMB earlier needed clarification.

Latest information here clearly states Where parents do not live in the same household, children under 18 can be moved between their parents’ homes

www.gov.uk/government/publications/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others

Yes you can.
Contact should continue unless both parents agree it’s best not to

A 450 mile journey can't possibly be essential.

Hopefully most sensible parents will agree not to especially if one is a key worker still going out. Nobody is being sent to war they just can't see their child for a few weeks. Yes not ideal but we have phones, facetime etc so it would be selfish if they did.

Gove's been flip-flopping on this all morning: You can ...can't ....can!

It's not difficult being a govt. minister. You get a box of papers and you read them. Gove didn't do this.