Children can get seriously ill from C-19

[Lifeisabeach09]

Sorry to upset anyone but I wanted to highlight that this virus can seriously affect children.

A 12 year old with NO underlying conditions is on a ventilator in the US.

edition.cnn.com/2020/03/22/us/georgia-coronavirus-girl-hospitalized/index.html

However, kids becoming seriously ill with the virus is still very uncommon.

@stairway

'Chickenpox used to be very common in the United States. In the early 1990s, an average of 4 million people got varicella, 10,500 to 13,000 were hospitalized (range, 8,000 to 18,000), and 100 to 150 died each year.'

www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/surveillance/monitoring-varicella.html

@Moomin8 they’re not scared now because it’s not affecting them. Once it does, either because they see someone they know get ill or someone just like them, then they will. Such is human nature.

If I recall the fatality rates for teens suggest 1 in 1000. That’s a kid at very big senior school. That’s when people will start waking up and stop strolling along the beach like it’s an extended bank holiday.

It was never rammed down our throats it doesnt harm children but that they are in a low risk category this doesnt change anything. Indeed if anything it shows it to be true as this is the first story

Chicken pox is a interesting comparison, I know in my circle of acquaintances 2 serious cases that needed hospitalisation, one that was left with brain damage and one that died. Everyone else had it mildly/moderately

Chicken pox is particularly interesting because there is an affective vaccine that most people don’t bother with. If you haven’t vaccinated against chicken pox you’ve put your under 10 at a greater risk than letting them run around licking the playground equipment now.

People are so thick about risk and statistics.

Effective sorry

Posts like this ARE helpful, and I think we need more of them, not less of them. Too many people have their heads buried in the sand about how serious this virus is. They've bought into the lie that China would have us believe - that it's just a flu, that it doesn't affect young people so badly, and that the death rate in confirmed cases is around 2-3%. What's happening in Italy is showing us the REAL impact of the virus, and the REAL death rate. And it's showing the world that the Chinese government has lied to the world and hidden and covered up their real statistics and death toll from the virus.
Wake up people

Part of the problem though is that we've had a government who encourages an 'I'm alright Jack mentality' for the last 10 years. It's everyone for themselves ....don't worry about the disabled people are having their benefits stripped away.

Now they suddenly expect people to take a position of collective responsibility. And are surprised they don't want to do it. I do think that the government is culpable in part for the current mindset. The chickens have come home to roost...

What's happening in Italy is showing us the REAL impact of the virus, and the REAL death rate. And it's showing the world that the Chinese government has lied to the world and hidden and covered up their real statistics and death toll from the virus.

Italy has said that 99% of the people who've died had pre-existing conditions. This virus is serious but I do think that we still need to keep in line with the facts.

swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR2ZDjLy01Wwsv5bguKYI2WryzV53_ACXKvzqje5WlHMz0GspmYGnyT82T8

@Moomin8 I'm not disputing the facts coming from Italy, as they are the real facts. What I take issue with is the "facts" from China. The Chinese government concealed the severity of the virus and concealed the real death rate.

Where is the evidence for that @Aerielview I mean I could well believe that any government would lie. But it's no good just deciding they must have lied.

Interesting link which says the air quality in northern Italy is one of the worst in Europe which might explain why they've been hit so hard by this .

@Moomin8
www.ccn.com/official-coronavirus-cases-near-50000-but-the-cdc-isnt-buying-it/

So in that case it's quite possible that Wuhan still has new cases.

Surely China unreporting is a good thing though given a two month lockdown has eased things there

Moomin yes the air quality is interesting Madrid is another bad hotspot and in the uk is London and the midlands (but no way as bad as northern Italy) and in the US it’s California and East coast

Yes, California has smog so bad you can't put clothes on the line, so I'm told by family.

We need people to understand that their kids can get sick if they are on fact getting sick. Trying to shield people from discussion because YOU don't want to hear it is unhelpful.

You know what's more annoying, if someone's child did get sick enough to need a ventilator, people will then say 'we were not warned' or 'we were sold a lie, I thought my child was safe' or 'the media lied' blah blah blah.

It's not a case of not wanting to hear it. But more a case of not unduly stressing people at a time when many are going to feel a sharp decline in their mental health.

People whose marriages probably only survive because they both work will suddenly find that they have to coexist for long periods of time.

There's a bigger picture here overall.

No one has ever said children wont get it - schools are closed because they are seen as superspreaders as they have mild symptoms.

They have said that in the vast majority of cases children have mild cases. Given that this is the FIRST time in all of this that we are seeing it it actually proves it. As time goes on there will be a few more but given the numbers that have died or are in ICU already the fact that the under 20s are few and far between is a good thing

@Quartz2208 China unreporting could yet again be China covering up

Children aren't dying in Italy either though. If this were affecting children in Italy we'd know since Italy holds children in the highest regard.

Moomin8 looked up Iran

www.voanews.com/middle-east/air-pollution-shuts-schools-irans-capital

Its awful. Air pollution must play a part in the worst hit areas Lombardy/Madrid/Iran/China/California/New York

OP here.
We have been complacent regarding this virus, even though Italy and Spain suffer right near us. And, yes, the great news is most children don't get it seriously but it's important to know that they can (not that they will)--as fucking scary as it is.
PP made the comment about feeling guilt about having to go out to work and leaving their children in school--I am an HCP and a parent. I, completely, understand it.
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