So Called Experts/Scientists

[Zilla1]

AIBU to feel sick of the BBC having so-called experts and scientists on the TV and Radio giving unchallenged advice and opinions about COVID without any balance. OK, so they might have spent decade studying virology, respiratory medicine, ITU or epidemiology but where is Nigel Lawson to reprise his climate change heroics and challenge so-called experts and 'conventional' thinking with his innate expertise and the research he's done himself. He might have been a politician but he didn't let that stop him from challenging so-called experts. We need his like again. Perhaps they could talk about how, surprisingly, vinegar can cure Covid or any of the other things that the Daily Fail tend to say, coffee cures Covid. And causes it too. Or it's all the fault of vaccines?

DG, I think holding their blue (black) passport will make many people happy, even if they can't use it to travel anywhere.

If all of those people got on QT together, I don't think they would let each other speak.

Errol, loss or or never had or is it possible to get herd immunity from this irony you mention?

If all of those people got on QT together, I don't think they would let each other speak.

Is there a critical mass of bellends ? I guess this is the experiment to find out.

On a briefly serious note, I caught "The Now Show" yesterday without an audience. If this is the new future, I wonder how rabble rousers like the aforementioned ministers for stupid would fare ?

On a briefly serious note, I caught "The Now Show" yesterday without an audience

It didn't work for me. I think it needed an audience response.

DG, I don't know about critical mass but what is the collective noun? For bells, it might be carillon but I don't know if that applies?

If critical mss is exceeded then what happens? for a fissile material, there can be an explosion? for a certain type of person/wisdom, what happens?

Well I for one am cross that we are not listening more to the young people. This is their future we are talking about. What we are seeing are people over 18 making decisions which are affecting the life choices of those with a whole life ahead of them. Why my son, whose quick wits, strategic vision and ability to make informed judgements based on an emerging situation have been honed to mastery courtesy of Dayzee and other XBox challenges, has been sent home rather than hot-wired to Johnson's office, is a mystery to me.

A critical mass of bells is an Exploded Tittums.

Genuinely. Google it.

I've been surprised at the invisibility of Gove.

Maybe he finally got the ring back from Frodo.

I do love this. Maybe some poor departed soul will not-organ donate him a chin.

Bucking, I don't think young people have been given enough credit for the years of selfless preparation for social isolation and online communications and entertainment through XBox/PS gaming.

It's dangerous though as most teenagers are convinced they know everything and their parents are wrong and stupid. or both. Anything that encourages them to think they are invulnerable (Elon Musk - children are immune) and that their parents need to isolate (well you look over 70, DParent, you've got to stay at home while I got out) might risk the very basis of society.

If critical mss is exceeded then what happens?

They vanish into a black hole and emerge on the other side into a reality in which the collapse of the twin tower were controlled demolitions, the moon landing was a hoax and climate change isn't happening.

Athelstane, the last time I googled something that sounds like that, I had to bleach my eyeballs then got suspected of having Covid conjunctivitis.

They should bring on those people who think that drinking bleach cures autism. I'm sure they have a lot to say on the subject on CV.

They should bring on those people who think that drinking bleach cures autism. I'm sure they have a lot to say on the subject on CV.

Sadly, after the death of a person from drinking fish tank cleaner (because it's "choloroquinie" right ?) that seems a little less funny ...

Taxpayer's Alliance. Where is their representative spreading their usual messages of joy and social solidarity?

And Mrs May - has she been asked recently so she can remind those of us in the UK about the non-existence of any magic money tree. Or it is Schrodinger's money tree - it doesn't exist until it's really needed by some people or business?

Let's hope no moaning minnies starts comparing what people need to live on UC or with disabled relatives, what they need to live on as a furloughed employee who can't then work and as an employee and as a mostly self-employed person who can get a grant for 80% of their earnings while still earning as a self-employed person and as an employee too.

I’m just glad Jeremy Corbyn isn’t in charge. Can you imagine what he would have done!! Probably spent loads of cash, privatised the railways, given the self employed money... umm... wait... no... he wouldn’t have done that... what would he have done? I’m not sure, but it would have been disastrous and chaotic and NOT broadly similar to what has happened, that’s for damn sure!!!

Careful, Avon, do you really think it's the right time to make (the wrong) political points. Are you working for COVID to undermine the war effort.

And don't suggest the furloughed employed or the grant-receiving self-employed should go out and work in the farmers' fields not the UK will need to grown more food and immigrants can't come to work there now. Everyone agreed the UC and disability-benefit recipients should be doing this already as a condition for receiving their too-generous benefits.

I’m not working for anyone, but I was born and bred in this country and that gives me the right for my voice to be heard and taken very seriously by everyone, thank you very much indeed. The people have spoken! Make it happen!

Avon, could you tie the government in knots by asking 'wouldn't Jeremy have done that'? I must admit I'm unclear who would struggle more in the thought experiment - this government capping payments to the employed and self-employed (are they 'punishing success'?) or any Corbynist government deciding to support the self-employed to help the poorly paid gig economy workers forced into that and helping 'tax avoider disguised employment-jockeys' given my perception of their and unions' distaste for the self-employed.

I think I'll go back to snippy points about magic money trees as it's easier than working through the political 'logic'.

I'd like to say I'd not heard 'born and bred' used in anger recently but (to punish myself) I had a look at the Taxpayer's Alliance website before I posted earlier and in their March Covid statement is a demand to cut aid payments. Presumably once the UK regains some control over COVID, we can close our borders to foreign viruses.

With the PM and others self-isolating, Mr Gove has stepped up to the plate. Every cloud has a silver lining?

and he's to lead the Brexit negotiations with the EU too. The gift that keeps on giving. Perhaps when he's wrapped that up, he can help the US President with their return to work.

@Zilla1 no minister sounds as competent as Boris Johnson. This will not end well...