How close do you think we are to looting?

[DoubleAction]

DS has a lot of friends in the Army. They're all on standby and being briefed on how to deal with looters.

What do you think? Just a precaution or the powers that be really think they will be needed?

Oh I missed that.

Yes pray tell.

I think within a couple of months (maybe less) we will have total chaos. It won't be just in the cities. If you have a big house in the country you will be even more at risk. People are more likely to try and take from the haves than the have nots, that has always been the case. Criminals will mostly leave the poor people alone because there is nothing to take. If you are wealthy I hope you have a great big moat around your property or an electric fence.

I assume that is a sort of satirical scaremonger post lol

It's a little bit of realism. There is a lot of resentment bubbling right now.

Have a word with yourself mindproject. And stop being an ill-informed, prejudiced dickhead.

Yes pray tell.

Ok, I stand corrected.

I don't think any discussion of JCdM or police misconduct would be productive at a time when everyone is already scared and is relying on authority to keep us safe in the face of unprecedented threat.

If people start questioning the motives of authority now, we're all in trouble.

I think it will happen if shortages continue and police are diverted elsewhere. Yes the government are planning to give a bit more money, but the addicts and alcoholics will get through that quick and need money soon enough, and the usual avenues such as handbag theft, burglaries and shoplifting will not be possible so looting will happen. There's a really aggressive atmosphere in supermarkets and a lot of people who are normally not aggressive are becoming so, people storming out of shops and fighting over loo rolls spitting at staff etc. These are the signs of social order breaking down, and one of the next steps is looting. Always has been. I don't think we will see riots because they usually come when people are not trying to avoid each other, but small groups of thugs looting? It's on the cards. I just hope it's really small scale and resolved quickly. Criminals break the law even when times are good and non-criminals sometimes become criminals when times are bad. Nobody is going to be happy going without their essentials. So while for most of us that's loo roll and pasta and hand wash and tins, for alcoholics that's booze and for drug addicts that's drugs. I don't think the increase in benefit is going to cover a regular supply of crack cocaine and heroin, especially if the trade routes are broken down.

What a non answer longines.

Pathetic.

Self employed people aren't getting support

They can claim UC. Currently applications are unconditional and being fast tracked. If they've got enough to last them a few weeks they'll be fine - not comfortable, certainly, but with enough to live very frugally on. The same way that a lot of people do every day, pandemic or no.

Millions and millions of people won't get paid if they don't go to work, I'm one of them. Are they all supposed to starve to death? They can't pay half the country benefits, where on earth would the money come from?

@mindproject what's your job?

The government are going to borrow, they’ve said that already, mindproject.

Then remembering that armed forces generally are not trained in general public

Yes they are.

QuimJong - sorry, I can't give personal information to random strangers on the internet.

I've been told that I have to go to work. If I don't go to work I won't get paid and might lose my job.

Having sat upstairs in the dark with a scared child, the air thick with smoke, whilst looters milled around outside and the SKY helicopter hovered overhead to get great shots for the viewing figures broadcasting to every scumbag with transport to come here last time, I can confirm that whilst some were going for the expensive items like bikes and phones, there were significant numbers of people walking around with sacks of rice and other staple goods to take back to their vehicles (as they'd driven down here specifically for the purpose).

They weren't young lads protesting about somebody being shot the other side of London - they were adult men and women taking advantage of the police not being able to be everywhere at once, thanks to young men who were more motivated by new phones and the sound of breaking glass. And they were also discussing where to go next based upon number of entrance points, where the smash-and-burn-everything people would go to concentrate police attention, number of quick escape routes and the sort of shops other areas had.

It does coincide with hot weather - and then fizzles away with the first rain.

So June-July's going to be interesting.

mindproject - oh yeah, another person saying their employer is acting badly or even illegally but you can't name them anonymously on the internet.

Of course.

@Evilcat No she didn’t.

MitziK. What bollocks.

@newyearnewjob123

Yeah, OK.

I imagined it. As did the rest of the town.

I went to the Co op earlier. I was refused two boxes of two chicken breasts (there are four of us). I pointed out they were frozen and offered to put the box she wouldn't sell me back in the freezer and wasn't allowed, presumably they're worried people will stuff it up their jumper I considered it

I think within a couple of months (maybe less) we will have total chaos. It won't be just in the cities. If you have a big house in the country you will be even more at risk. People are more likely to try and take from the haves than the have nots, that has always been the case. Criminals will mostly leave the poor people alone because there is nothing to take. If you are wealthy I hope you have a great big moat around your property or an electric fence.

It won’t happen in Europe and it won’t happen here.

Food supply will be sorted and the worst we’ll see is a scrap over a loo roll.

Yes I think the shortges will be resolved soon. There is enough food and bloody loo roll.

DH's friend said Morrisons in Edinburgh was broken into overnight and all remaining food stolen....so I'm thinking pretty close. People are disgusting.

No, we are far away from riots, imo

However, any govt / military would be totally irresponsible if they weren't beefing up training and contingency plans, just in case TSHTF

There are already plans to trap loo roll thieves: