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To be panicking after contact on Saturday with someone who has it.

77 replies

shakeituntilyoumakeit · 20/03/2020 22:45

Saw friend on sat, was self isolating as kid was ill but she insisted on coming in on the basis that we are all going to get it anyway. We didnt hug or anything but I’m sure we would have been nearer than a metre.she started being ill Tuesday, got worse weds, worse fri and was admitted to hospital today. I’m at risk with underlying health issues and I’m lying in bed frozen with panic that I’m going to get it.

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JorisBonson · 21/03/2020 06:20

Has she actually tested positiv

JorisBonson · 21/03/2020 06:21

Positive?

Stupid phone

Casino218 · 21/03/2020 06:27

The most infectious time of this virus is pre symptom so please self isolate. It's done now but you have a very ignorant friend!

Casino218 · 21/03/2020 06:28

Jeeps if salty water killed the virus do you think we would be spending millions looking for a bloody vaccine!

Helpmechangemymindsetplease · 21/03/2020 06:30

I am sure you will be fine sweetheart. Try not to worry and do things which make you relax. I am very annoyed on your behalf about your friend’s coming in to your house. I hope she recovers quickly.

maddening · 21/03/2020 06:32

Isn't the most infectious part 12 hours before onset of symptoms - so you were well before this period if her symptoms came on Tuesday. Hopefully you may have dodged it x

dontdisturbmenow · 21/03/2020 06:33

The most infectious time of this virus is pre symptom so please self isolate
I have sought medical advice and I was told this wasn't the case, that only once someone shows the first sign of symptoms should you self-isolate.

My DD found out the day she was back from a trip to Spain with a group of 12 girls that three of them had developed symptoms, one of them whose family all have it, and sadly, her grandmother has now passed away from it. Another girl is quite poorly with it right now.

This was last Saturday. She's been home since and we are just waiting to see. So far, she has shown no symptoms, so we are crossing fingers. We've been taking one day at a time. I too am in the at risk group.

dontdisturbmenow · 21/03/2020 06:35

Isn't the most infectious part 12 hours before onset of symptoms
I was told that you become at risk the moment you show symptoms not before. People exposed are at risk for 14 days after that period, the person who has symptoms at risk of passing it for 7 days.

cinammonbuns · 21/03/2020 06:44

OP why are you refusing to answer whether she has definitely been tested positive. It is very possibly that she is ill with something else.

ninja · 21/03/2020 06:53

You can't just be infectious once you show symptoms as some people are spreading it without symptoms

However OP, timing wise you generally show symptoms between 2 and 5 days - the 14 days with a family to self isolate are 7 for the one with symptoms to get better, then 7 for everyone else to catch it (possibly on the last day) and show symptoms - so you're almost certainly ok x

AnyOldSpartabix · 21/03/2020 06:54

I was told that you become at risk the moment you show symptoms not before

The Italian and South Korean super-spreaders both passed it on while still symptom-free.

OP, the stories from hospitals are frightening, but realistically even if you are in one of the most at-risk groups, the vast majority of those infected will still survive. Try to stay calm and rest.

SmiteTheeWithThunderbolts · 21/03/2020 06:54

As others have said, you saw her almost a week ago and you haven't developed any symptoms, which is a very good sign.

Also, transmission from fleeting contact is low. A WHO report published in February about China's response to dealing with the virus had some statistics about the number of people traced after being in contact with a confirmed case of the virus, and how many of those then tested positive. Of the examples they gave (tens of thousands of people) only around 2% of people tested positive, with one anomaly group of just under 5%. They said transmission appeared to be higher in families (presumably because those people are in regular close contact).

So although you were in contact with your friend, low transmission rate and absence of symptoms 6 days later should be very reassuring.

okiedokieme · 21/03/2020 06:56

My gp friend has said they have shown that people become infectious before symptoms but only for 24 hours approx, not 4 days. The incubation period is typically 2-7 days, 4-5 being most common so she could have in theory caught it from you if your dd was sick. We don't know everything yet but basically the virus needs to latch on and replicate to a critical point before you start shredding it through saliva, nasal droplets etc.

FlashingLights101 · 21/03/2020 06:56

dontdisturbmenow

I was told that you become at risk the moment you show symptoms not before. People exposed are at risk for 14 days after that period, the person who has symptoms at risk of passing it for 7 days.

But surely if you're only infectious after developing symptoms, the people who have developed it would have been coughed on by people who were obviously ill, whereas I thought the reason it's spreading so quickly was because people are in contact with each other, seemingly well, and then catching it?

Happy to be corrected though!

Giganticshark · 21/03/2020 07:16

Could it be that your child has made her ill? And you haven't shown symptoms of whatever it is?

Figgygal · 21/03/2020 07:19

As much as I hope your friend gets better it’s idiots like her That been spreading this virus she clearly didn’t take it seriously and now is dealing with the repercussions.

I hope you stay well op

MarginalGain · 21/03/2020 07:38

I'm pretty sure the current wisdom is that most people will be symptomatic within 5.1 days on average from exposure, so take heart.

Good luck OP.

TellMeWhoTheVilliansAre · 21/03/2020 07:52

"we are all going to get it anyway" is the attitude that is going to unnecessarily kill thousands.

Good luck to the people with that attitude. Just be aware that some of you will cause the death of loved ones. Yours and other people's.

nellodee · 21/03/2020 07:59

This virus is contagious before symptoms. The reason we isolate after symptoms become apparent is because this is our only option. If we had effective testing, we would isolate earlier.

www.theguardian.com/science/2020/mar/12/coronavirus-most-infections-spread-by-people-yet-to-show-symptoms-scientists

BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser · 21/03/2020 08:20

I am now confused who was "self isolating" due to ill child...

TellMeWhoTheVilliansAre · 21/03/2020 10:54

Does it matter who is "self isolating"? The fact is everyone should be isolating as much as possible and cutting out all unnecessary social contact with people. There is absolutely no need to be calling around to people's houses and popping in for chats.

When this is all over we'll never really know if we overreacted, but we will definitely know if we underreact.

OP, hopefully you'll be ok. But let this be a lesson. Learn to stand up and say no rather than be polite and then spend a week or two upset, crying and fretting.

BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser · 21/03/2020 12:00

When this is all over we'll never really know if we overreacted, but we will definitely know if we underreact

This should be on front pages

MsPeachh · 21/03/2020 12:03

Don’t beat yourself up OP. I’m terrible at boundaries too, but ultimately it was her who was selfish and stupid, not you. Was it really that important to bring you something she had borrowed at times like these? Ffs. She’s an idiot.

PotholeParadise · 21/03/2020 18:58

How are you now OP?

shakeituntilyoumakeit · 22/03/2020 23:24

I am ok. She tested positive so now it’s right days since I was exposed. Thank you everyone who took the time to comment

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