Family going out for dinner

[crispysausagerolls]

My brother came round today and mentioned whilst round he and my family went out for dinner last night. I’m pregnant and wish he had mentioned this tbh before coming round - my mother wants to pop into tomorrow too and now I’m not sure if any of them should as they aren’t taking this seriously and I am trying to seriously limit social contact where possible!

It's nothing to do with you being vulnerable (I am too). No one should be socialising in person ATM. Yes, someone needs to go do the food shop, that's essential. It's fine to go for a walk. But no calling to each other's houses regardless of who lives there.

@crispysausagerolls
What I posted is up to date and available in full here. Do you really think the government would advise don’t see family and then the rules be relaxed as in your cartoon traffic light pic? We aren’t wanting to be harsh for no reason but people are dying. Our loved ones could be wiped out because you don’t follow up to date advice.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-on-social-distancing-and-for-vulnerable-people/guidance-on-social-distancing-for-everyone-in-the-uk-and-protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults

I think that this is unfair, directed at me. Like I am the person in this scenario who is at increased risk and I have not been leaving the house, as I said I didn’t really think through

It's absolutely fair.

You didn't think this through and then you've posted guidelines for social distancing rather than self isolating (the latter of which you should be doing whilst pregnant).

Self isolating rules - which is recommended for pregnant women (NOT "just" social distancing) are very clear and have been kindly posted above by a pp, which includes not having even friends and family to your house.

The information is clear OP - you're just unwilling to read it/understand it/think it through.

Please now start doing so for the health of yourself and baby and insist your family do the same.

It’s not my pic I am
Just saying (for the third time) that people are peddling what is apparently (according to your official guidelines which I note) misinformation so it is confusing.

To be clear I'm not trying to be mean I'm trying to ensure your understand the difference between self isolating and social distancing.

You seem to have misunderstood the difference and thus are conflicted re: guidelines.

You need as a pregnant woman to be self isolating and follow those guidelines.

Please now start doing so for the health of yourself and baby and insist your family do the same

How fucking patronising! As I said I can’t actually self isolate since DH is bringing shit home
With him every time he leaves the house. Plus I now have to go and use the “vulnerable” supermarket slot to buy food as I wasn’t one of the selfish wankers who stockpiled so we don’t have food and when DH goes he can’t seem to find any - So definitely
NOT self isolating if I go
To
The supermarket, am
I?

Avoid non-essential use of public transport, varying your travel times to avoid rush hour, when possible
Work from home, where possible. Your employer should support you to do this. Please refer to employer guidance for more information

Does no one think it’s ridiculous that I could still be not working from
Home
And taking public transport when essential eg to work or the shops?!

Hope your ok -it's a worrying time & defo not easy being pregnant , I'm really struggling with it all. Just focus on you and your baby.

What an idiot he is. Bloody hell...

You definitely shouldn’t be going to the supermarket. The vulnerable slots don’t do anything to protect you from the virus as the vulnerable could have the virus. Unless you have zero food in you really shouldn’t be risking it.

I think eventually the rules will be far stricter as so many people aren’t following them, like your family going for meals. I don’t think people are giving you this advice to be rude or patronising but to let you know you’re not following the rules

I'm really struggling with it all

I’m sorry to hear that - stay strong 💐

Here is the the web page you need to read OP.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/

I'm not trying to fuckimg patronise you, I'm trying to help you by ensuring you have the correct information - which you clearly didn't.

OP you are still not listening, you have a grown adult DH who holds down a job, he is perfectly capable of shopping if he tries. You should not go out unnecessarily. I’m gobsmacked by this post.

OP, the information you keep referring too states that you should not have social visitors to the home. Just because your husband is going out to work, that doesn't mean it's fine to let others in. The advice is really clear.

@SunsetYorks

you are not listening. I can’t upload more than 3 photos apparently so can’t show you but the supermarket was stripped bare this evening. We have a toddler and no milk, low on other fairly essential supplies. If it was so obvious that pregnant women are not allowed to go to the supermarket why have they created the vulnerable slot?

I’m
Leaving this post now. I actually think people’s tones are beyond arseholey and patronising. It’s great to know
That if I have a Coronavirus question, however stupid to others, I shouldn’t fucking post expecting advice to be delivered reasonably, but just get insulted and piled on and have people telling me to look after my baby as if that’s not my fucking priority.

Jesus Christ MN is full of dicks sometimes.

Just because your husband is going out to work, that doesn't mean it's fine to let others in. The advice is really clear

I HAVE REPEATEDLY ACKNOWLEDGED THIS FFS AND SAID POINT TAKEN I WAS WRONG.

Over and fucking out.

Jesus Christ MN is full of dicks sometimes.

So it is.

This is the whole point about social distancing OP. You can't ever verify who the people you encounter have been in contact with. So you have to take control into your own hands. You can't control who your brother sees or where he goes. So its incumbent on you to take control of the situation.

Just because people are close friends or family doesn't mean they have been observing the rules.

You didn't think this through and then you've posted guidelines for social distancing rather than self isolating (the latter of which you should be doing whilst pregnant).

This is incorrect. Pregnant women, over 70s and those with underlying conditions (so combined,a massive proportion of the population) are supposed to be strongly sticking to the social distancing guidelines, but they're actually the same for everyone. No one should be having visitors to the house regardless of whether they're vulnerable, everyone should be limiting their contact to the essentials.

No one has actually been told to self isolate for 12 weeks yet, it's thought that's coming this weekend. The description of who that will apply to was very vague. Pregnant women are now in the vulnerable category but it seems only those at severe risk (chemo, severe respiratory conditions etc) will be asked to isolate. www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-on-social-distancing-and-for-vulnerable-people/guidance-on-social-distancing-for-everyone-in-the-uk-and-protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults

We wait with baited breath.

But the advice re OP having family around is no different because she's pregnant. No one should be doing that.

". The vulnerable slots don’t do anything to protect you from the virus as the vulnerable could have the virus."
Fewer people = reduced risk (NOT zero risk). Risk reduction is what this is all about.
I'm not saying the op should go out, I'm taking issue with the incorrect logic. Of course restricting numbers reduces risk, that's why schools are staying open to a smaller group of children.

People who have symptoms should self isolate.

Or live in the same household

StealthPolarBear well yes, but that's been the case for months and it's still not for 12 weeks.