To be annoyed at non essential shops who are keeping their doors open?

[Mlou32]

Big stores such as Penneys (Primark), Brown Thomas and loads of other businesses big and small have all shut up shop for now in an attempt to help with social distancing. However the likes of Debenhams and other non essential types of shop are happily still trading. Of course I know folk have personal responsibility and we should be (and I certainly am) only going to the shops once a week on my own to do the groceries. Then coming straight home. And everyone should be adhering to this level of essential contact only. However the likes of department stores and other non essential shops continuing to trade is to me, the height of social irresponsibility. As I say, there is a level of personal responsibility that people should be taking however there is always going to be those who don't give a damn and do what they like. These shops being open just seem to be encouraging those who have no intention of adhering to government advice to come out and mingle in public. They are open so people will come.

Its actually really irking me. It's like they're putting profit above peoples health and safety.

I do understand the stark financial situation that many businesses are finding themselves under at present. I also know that the government hasn't explicitly ordered them to close. But can't they use common sense and regard for public health and just shut their doors?

Am I being unreasonable at being annoyed at these stores?

@AlternativePerspective They just have too much time on their hands .. it’s always the same kind of people that post this crap .

@fluffybutter at the expense of my colleagues lives and that of my unborn child? Clearly you're just on here to try and wind people up, you can't honestly think that way? No one can be that disgusting.

On the flip side, DH indirectly works in the insurance industry. If/When the official closure order is given and all of these businesses can (rightly) claim on their insurances, the insurance industry will be on its knees and there will be repercussions there too.

The economy is absolutely fucked by corona, however you stack it.

@alternativeperspective I've clearly stated it's both the shops fault and the people who are shopping there. And its it's not really emotional blackmail. It's the truth. Unless you know more than the chief scientific and medical advisers?

We're moving this over to the Coronavirus topic now, @Mlou32

@Fluffybutter it’s thanks to idiots like you and your “me, me, me” attitude that people like my daughter are being forced to work while other people get to stay in the safety of their homes. You’ve presumably known since she was born when your daughter’s birthday is; your poor planning isn’t an excuse to act like a selfish person. I very, very much doubt your daughter needs new toys and even if she does, you’ve had an entire year to buy them (and don’t use the “poor me I have no money” excuse, you had the money to go and buy everything all at once yesterday).

And it’s a fact that lives will be lost as a result of shutting down businesses and job losses.

And women who are in violent relationships will have less ability to escape with no money and no job prospects.

And children will go hungry.

Yes there will be deaths, 20000 according to the chief medical officer as I recall on Monday, But there will be deaths on both sides.

No-one is saying that we shouldn’t go to extraordinary lengths to prevent people from catching this virus. But we do also have to consider that people do have real life considerations which will take them beyond this period.

You have to consider both sides.

Incidentally, the talk of how companies can’t claim on their insurance unless the government orders closure is inaccurate. The government said on Wednesday that insurers would pay out in the event a business decides to close, however most businesses don’t have the right insurance and so will be unable to claim regardless.

Incidentally, people are likely at far greater risk going to the supermarket, given the amount of panic buying that is going on and the crowds both outside and inside the shops.

So perhaps supermarkets need to start closing or limiting their customer numbers to say, 50 at a time.

@gingersausage you’re confusing me with someone else, hun.
@Mlou32 and you need to take a breath.
None of my family are ill, none of us have even visited family in the last 3 weeks and I think I’m entitled to go to Tesco and buy some gifts while I’m there .
Should my key worker husband not go to work either Incase by some miracle he comes into contact with “you and your unborn baby”
Sounds like if anyone needs to stay in,it’s you

@alternativeperspective but that's just it, people are saying that we shouldn't go to extraordinary lengths to prevent the spread of this illness. Unless people condoning going out to buy toys for their daughters birthday and as a pp said, "keeping shops open in case people need to replace broken furniture" are absolutely, unarguably necessary in light of what's going on in society? And people of this ilk are out in their thousands, up and down the country.

@fluffybutter I need to take a breath? No, I think you need to take a look in a mirror.

Don't try and backtrack, you clearly made out you were going on a shopping trip to buy toys for your kids birthday. Now you're changing it to buying toys while you happen to be in tesco, one would assume buying your groceries. So it's changed from a toy shopping trip to a grocery trip. Hmm. At least have the courage to stand by what you were trying to make out earlier, that you were going toy shopping.

Let's hope that other people don't have such a selfish, bottom feeder mentality and think that toy shopping (which is what you were talking about) in a busy public place is more important than socila distancing. And let's hope they then don't spread it to your "key worker" husband and he then goes on to spread it to his patients/clients and other colleagues of his.

If my children’s birthdays fell in the next few weeks I would have been out this week buying toys and a cake.

As an adult you’d get it, child. Well their lives are crap enough at the moment without having no presents.

We aren’t on lockdown yet and if view that as pretty essential, a few toys and a cake. Your not going to soft play, having a party. Just something.

The works was packed this week with people stocking up on school stuff, I think that’s pretty essential too.
This is a marathon not a sprint.

@Mlou32
I feel the exact same way.
I felt sick with a knot in my stomach reading on FB that a local soft play is advertising they are still open this, encouraging people to visit.
Of course the patrons should have the decency and responsibility to stay away but, there will always be morons. The sooner we go in to lockdown, the better.

How am I confusing you with someone else @Fluffybutter? I took the information from your post of 09:10:48. I think you’re the one that’s confused “hun”.