How and when will the food situation improve?

[Crunchymum]

Starting to get a bit concerned now.

Didn't stockpile or go mad. Day on day it seems to be getting worse?

I am local to 3 supermarkets (I'm in central London) plus several supermarket 'locals' plus independents.

I have enough to last the week. Then we will be desperate!!

When will things start to improve??

We need rationing immediately. Legislation has already been drafted in case we need it.

Rationing should have been put in place two weeks ago. We have been desperately slow in our response.

@Hazelnutlatteplease that’s still no excuse. You're still capable of getting supplies as and when you need them. Elderly people cannot travel to 5 different supermarket for essentials. Most people have had noro/flu, doesn’t make them vulnerable. I myself am vulnerable. Still wouldn’t stockpile and be selfish.

@Hippydoodledoo8

You're still capable of getting supplies as and when you need them.

Have you thought that through? Youre still not getting it.

DS wasnt ill with Norovirus, he was hospitalised, about 2 hours on a generous estimate from death.

Everytime anyone heads out the house we put DS at risk. Nice guidelines now are to only intubate those with the best chance of recovery, as my DD said two weeks ago looking at italy "if it gets bad theyre not intubating Dbro, are they?".

I went out for the last time yesterday. From here on in we're online food orders all the way.

If that doesn't come through, if it doesnt have what we need in it what do you think 3 of us are eating? How do you think DS will be taking his medicine which has to be taken with certain food 3 times a day?

The sinful stockpile.

I should add he is vulnerable due to underlying conditions

@Hazelnutlatteplease a drip feed if ever I saw one...

It’s just shocking how greedy people have been.. people have be so selfish and me, me, me. Many really should be ashamed of themselves

You’ve got parents that can’t even buy nappies, elderly that are having to go out every fucking day just to try and get a decent amount of tinned soup and veg, Nurses/paramedics finishing 12 hour shifts and not even being able to get a loaf and milk for tea and toast once they are home.

Freezers have reportedly sold out in some stores so not only have the greedy fuckers filled the space they had, they have then gone out and got another freezer to fill 🙄

Even now with the 2-3 item restrictions in place people are arguing with the minimum wage shop worker as they want more, it’s all what about them.

I’d like to think it will calm down but honestly the stupid seem to be out weighing the ones with sense.....

I'm just back from Lidl and it was fine. Not busy at all and stock of everything except dry pasta. A couple of days ago it was stripped bare. I think the rationing is working.

I'm hoping production of 'multipacks' will be pulled back, I saw a lady earlier with x2 packs of uht milk, each containing 6 cartons.

We went to Morrison’s today. We were a bit nervous tbh as social media has loads of photos of empty shelves. In fact it wasn’t bad...some aisles had been depleted...not much meat, no pasta etc but largely we got everything else we needed.

DH is lazy enough to buy microwave rice and bought three single packets . We did have to scan one separately due to the two item limit but it was fine.

Cashier said one family all went in and tried to buy 8 bottles of Calpol ..each member of the family going through separate tills with two bottle each. They were seen and stopped and were abusive about it but left won just two bottles in the end.

Just back from Asda, the store was pretty quiet! plenty of bread and milk on the shelves, yes the pasta isle and tinned stuff was pretty decimated, but we are by no means in a situation where the stores are 'empty' of all food! If you read the headlines you would literally think that we are going to starve to death. Yes, you may have to be creative with the meals you prepare just now, but there IS food on the shelves. Home Bargains has tonnes of tinned tuna and soup, no-one was even picking it up. There was a limit of 3 items in Asda (ie I tried to buy 4 micro-rice packs but was only allowed 3) but apart from toilet roll and the above mentioned foods, the store was as normal and people were walking wound normally.
I think some of this is self perpetuating. The more you see tabloid headlines screaming about food shortages, the more you feel you want to buy food where you see it. I can only speak for where I am, but there was no apocalyptic feel to the shops today.

@Hippydoodledoo8

I suggest you re read my first post.
We are self isolating on account of DS.

My first response to you
DS is vulnerable. Hes been hospitalised due to norovirus and very nearly hospitalised due to breathing difficulties with the flu.

It was hardly a drip feed now was it? You just read what supported your opinion

*walking AROUND normally

@P1nkHeartLoveCakes sorry but some of the elderly are just as or more selfish then younger people. Selfishness and greed don't have age limits.

I was buying for an isolated household yesterday so went to their nearest supermarkets. I went first to a Tesco Express. What shocked me it was I saw 4 OAPs arguing with the shop assistant who was bringing the stock in. He had been nice to them and given them each one box of eggs from a trolley as that was the limit, but they each argued for more. When the last customer had a go at him he actually swore very loudly and said "I don't get paid enough to take this abuse from customers". None of the younger customers in the store even bothered to ask for eggs as they weren't on the shelves.

I then went to a Sainsburys Local and brought them enough food for a week. As I was working out how much chicken to buy for 4 people for a week an elderly women pushed passed me and grabbed 5 packets of chicken.

(Just a note in my area it is the middle aged demographic who would do that. The elderly are fine.)

They have police and army personnel in the larger supermarkets in Spain now. If you take more than one of anything you are forced to put it back, so says a friend in Spain today.

No @Hazelnutlatteplease you didn’t explain the situation. As I said, I too am vulnerable and am self isolating. Not everyone self isolating/vulnerable is stock piling. There isn’t a need other than exceptional circumstances. Stockpiling without exceptional circumstances is selfish. End of.

@Hippydoodledoo8

Not everyone self isolating/vulnerable is stock piling.
If they have any sense they should be. Theres a lot that can go wrong with obtaining food atm.

it's not hard to say sorry for being quick to judgement and slow to understand.

It seems a it calmer today. They need to get the supply chain sorted quickly though. Of course people will try and buy a little extra to stop them running out when the shelves are stripped bare.

We haven't done any stockpiling. We went out today and got most of what we needed.

Local shops like the 7-11 places have been invaluable for anything we've struggled with. I even managed to buy pasta .

@Hazelnutlatteplease there’ll be no apologies from me, I wasn’t slow to understand anything. You drop fed the information.

Thankfully, others like myself are thinking of others and not stockpiling depriving people who are Potentially more at risk than ourselves.

We have enough because I've been going put every day at about 3pm to buy what we need. On Wednesday there was cereal, on Thursday I got a loaf and bog roll, yesterday I got tea, gammon steaks and 4 venison burgers. Today there was plenty of salad and veg and I bought milk, a loaf, two pork belly and some sausages. I would dearly love some eggs but won't shop again until Tuesday. Could manage dinners for about 10 days but three of us are at home and using much more tea/coffee/lunch stuff than usual.

Probably I have bought the equivalent of one extra shop in case we have to self isolate and can't get out. Mainly because there are no delivery or click and collect slots between now and 10th April.

Our local Sainsbury has been stripped and has been in the papers. Our local M&S and Waitrose had no meat, veg, salad, bread or milk today. Sainsbury was better. Fairly affluent area with a lot of 50+ people.

I would dearly like some paracetamol. We have 12 tablets and I haven't been able to find any for about 10 days.