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Why do teachers still have jobs?

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StrangeTimes · 19/03/2020 08:06

So my husband has just lost his job from next week. He's a coach driver. My best mate has lost her job from this week, she used to work in a cinema. I have many friends now out of work and desperately trying to get jobs in supermarkets.

However teachers will not be working now for many months, so how come they're not being made redundant?

I'm not being goady I genuinely want to know. I'm glad they are still being paid, I'd hate for them to be in our position. But why?

Are other jobs "safe" like this too?

OP posts:
Valenciaoranges · 19/03/2020 19:41

Still planning lessons and teaching remotely. Actually takes longer to plan because instructions need to be really clear. We are online for every lesson, to respond and support. Work still needs to be marked etc.

LemonGingerCakes · 19/03/2020 19:44

BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WORKING FULL TIME. THAT'S WHY.

CHILDREN are MOSTLY another going in. We’re working full time either from home or still in the building.

As it should be. I wouldn’t want anything less. But if we're working, we get paid.

WomanInTheWindow · 19/03/2020 19:47

I find the tone of your post grossly offensive.

Today our Year 11s had their last day at school, students I have known for years - it's happened in days. They are stunned and upset.

We are still working. We have been instructed to keep to our working hours as we are adapting our curriculum online, teaching lessons online, setting work and responding to emails from students about the work and marking it.

We have also been at school all this week in contact with goodness what, potentially at the risk to ourselves and our families, whilst we deal with distressed Year 11 and Year 13 students who have had their lives derailed.

I am also part of a group going in to help provide support for children of keyworkers - teachers are included as that by the way.

Maybe think a bit next time. But thanks for the classic teacher bashing.

FredaFrogspawn · 19/03/2020 19:49

Yeah we are working but yeah we are lucky we can continue to work and be paid.

Hope you’re ok op.

UrbanMage · 19/03/2020 19:52

Still working here, including having to bring my own school aged child in with me as DH might WFH, but that nature of his job means he cannot keep a proper eye on a 5 year old. If I don't go in, then no pay.

We might be on a rotating basis. We will certainly be WFH.

Today I have contacted over 200 students through our homework system, emailed many students and parents and comforted many children. I am thankful that I had, as an 'unpaid' head of an options subject, that I am a prepper and had already created numerous revision booklets and resources for my exam classes (though not much bloody point for year 11!). I also work in an amazing faculty who has banded together and collaborated to make standard packs. My job tomorrow is to differentiate these for my more vulnerable and SEN students.

I have also been trying to make arrangements to keep my own child entertained and educated for the next 5 months, if I am not classed as a key worker.

That's before I began to mark work.
And try and not completely fuck over my MH, which hasn't been great this year.

But, thanks OP, you do you yeah?!

RevealAll · 19/03/2020 19:53

Who do teachers think they’re kidding? Putting some assignments online and marking the ones that don’t mark themselves( plenty of online resources mark themselves) is hardly working. Especially as the year 11’s don’t require anything.
All of my friends were delighted about working from home for at least two weeks.

I’ll be properly working because I teach students with EHCP’s. Even worse, there’s nothing to stop teachers self isolating on full pay whilst the rest else does their job. Its fine to self isolate if you or your family are at risk. It’s not fine to pretend you are doing the right thing at everyone else’s expense.

wineandsunshine · 19/03/2020 19:54

Yep still working in school from Monday (with my own children)......full time!!

NeverGotMyPuppy · 19/03/2020 20:04

@RevealAll I'll be the first to say it

Oh do fuck off.

Never had a self marking assignment in my life. And I spent 5 hours today converting all the notes I have for one unit into recorded lectures.

Don't be a dick.

mintandcoral · 19/03/2020 20:28

I wondered how long it would be before one of these popped up Hmm

Teaching is a profession. You need a degree and a PGCE to become a teacher. Teachers will also still be working.

Randomschoolworker19 · 19/03/2020 20:42

I work in a school and despite being 'closed' we will still be open to the children of key workers and vulnerable children.

In addition to this, we will be putting ourselves at risk by working with the best spreaders of illnesses and diseases that there is.

I'm so grateful to still have a job but it's hardly peachy is it? I wish I had the luxury of WFH.

SallyLovesCheese · 19/03/2020 20:44

there’s nothing to stop teachers self isolating on full pay whilst the rest else does their job.

Nothing to stop this happening in other professions, either. We're not the only ones who are lucky enough to self-isolate with pay.

Stop making out teachers are the only people who would pretend they're self-isolating. There's a percentage of idiots in any job.

ReceptionTA · 19/03/2020 20:45

My DDs teachers will be uploading work for each lesson to be completed at home.

If all teachers were asked they would need redundancy pay. And then they'd need to be employed again. It's much cheaper just to have a workforce ready to go the moment schools open again.

gypsywater · 19/03/2020 20:49

There really are some thick fuckers on MN sometimes

SallyLovesCheese · 19/03/2020 20:50

All of my friends were delighted about working from home for at least two weeks.

I know lots of people, mostly non-teachers, who are happy about working from home, spending more time with their kids, not having to commute, etc.

My teacher friends (and myself) are a) frustrated at being off work for 7 days with a cough, b) upset their exam year groups won't get to sit the exams they've worked so hard for over the last 18 months, c) offering free school work help through social media platforms to anyone who wants it for their children on top of still doing their day job, d) spending their own time, for no extra pay, making up "work packs" and putting lessons etc. online, e) gearing up to work longer days and through the holidays with key workers' children and those with EHCPs.

Other professions have been and will be stepping up during this crisis, teachers are too.

So let's stop with the teacher-bashing. Just let us get on with it, as you would health care professionals or supermarket staff or any of the other jobs doing their best.

mineofuselessinformation · 19/03/2020 20:50

I wish it was 'time off'.
We've already had to deal with a lot - year 11 and year 13 students almost in tears because they don't know what will happen (and neither do we).
And, we still have to try to find some way of assessing those that need data.
And God knows what will happen when we return. We can only teach so much new material virtually, which will have a massive impact on the next academic year.

NanSlayer · 19/03/2020 20:52

Don't worry the teachers will be let go soon for AI online learning courses, you can see it coming!

BubblyBarbara · 19/03/2020 20:56

They are employed by the council

Not very often anymore. We live in the age of the academy run by companies. So getting laid off is a real risk. Thanks privatisation!

sweetkitty · 19/03/2020 21:03

Another teacher bashing thread???

Anyway I will be in school on Monday as we are being asked to if not self-isolating. Still don’t know exactly what we will be doing, looking after children of key workers, delivering meals on wheels, giving school dinners to vulnerable children.

If I was at home there’s plenty of work could do like making resources, assessments, planning. I won’t be not working for months.

MyOtherProfile · 19/03/2020 21:03

Wow!

NiktheGreek · 19/03/2020 21:04

The level of stupid on here just gets better and better.

madrose · 19/03/2020 21:06

I'm still going into school and will be next week too. I have been asked to work my contracted hours. there will be children there to teach - hence why I have a job

YouAreGoldAlwaysBelieve · 19/03/2020 21:10

Why would teachers lose their jobs? It takes years of hard work to qualify and they have a lot of behind the scenes work to do, even now they are planning and completing reports etc. We will need them to be there when the schools go back?

DippyAvocado · 19/03/2020 21:13

I'm a teacher. I'm a safeguarding lead and we don't have many so I will need to be in school 2-3 days per week from 8 till 5 supervising children, including children from another school that I don't know. I will have all the EHCP children to support. All of this will need to be planned and resourced. As well as that I will need to be setting remote work for all of my class that are at home. I have to continue to work across the Easter holidays. I have two primary-aged children myself and a DH who is also a teacher.

I will not be sitting around on my backside watching box sets for 3 months.

Waitingfirgodot · 19/03/2020 21:21

We're still working, that's why! I've just had the worst day of my career, trying to reassure my year 13 class whilst also trying to work out how our remote learning works. It feels like being thrown onto a whole new job that I'm untrained for and haven't applied to do, but all the same I'll bloody well do it to the absolute best of my ability! Of course it's awful that anyone is losing their job, big that doesn't mean that we all have to!

Duchessofealing · 19/03/2020 21:23

This is a really awful situation and it is terribly sad that anyone is losing their job. Having said that I also want to add my voice to the mass gratitude that teachers will still be working and will still be coming back to teach in person when safe to do so. Thank you and OP I am sorry about, and sad for, your situation.