Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Covid

Mumsnet doesn't verify the qualifications of users. If you have medical concerns, please consult a healthcare professional.

So how is all this ‘open only for key workers’ thing going to work then?

408 replies

FlamingoAndJohn · 18/03/2020 17:32

Really is doesn’t seem to mean anything.

I can’t really teach a random selection of children.

OP posts:
Xenia · 19/03/2020 12:08

I thought we could relax all those kinds of rules like video calls being dangerous. Surely if you have all the children dialing to a group teaching call it is unlikely the teacher will start some kind of sexual display on the call.

Janemarpling · 19/03/2020 12:21

The NASUWT is also concerned that online sessions can be recorded and edited and this could lead to inappropriate postings on social media. Safeguards must be built in to prevent this and safeguard teachers and pupils who are participating and if teachers feel concerned about this they should not be required to deliver sessions in this way.

EhOh · 19/03/2020 12:21

It will be utterly chaotic. Think children of those key worker parents are going to allow themselves to be schooled whilst everyone else is off home? So naive. The teachers (might) not care and it'll be chaotic childcare at best.

Xiaoxiong · 19/03/2020 12:32

We've just received emails from the DCs schools asking any parent who believes they will be classified as a key worker to contact them asap if they will need childcare.

They are apparently proposing to run the holiday clubs they usually do over the Easter hols, but just for keyworkers' kids. Which makes sense to me - holiday clubs always have a random selection of children of different ages.

EYProvider · 19/03/2020 12:54

I will offer 24 hour care at my nursery for the children of keyworkers if there is a need for this.

We need to pull together as a country if we are to get through this.

EYProvider · 19/03/2020 13:30

@TimeforanotherChange - This is no time to be selfish.

If you work in the public sector with all the benefits that come with it, you are a public servant and therefore duty bound to do your bit.

You can’t just grab the benefits in the good times and then hide away in the bad - it doesn’t work like that.

Xenia · 19/03/2020 14:27

EY well done. Too many people are thinking of reasons things cannot be done - like NASUWT (no surprise there) than what was actually can do to keep the country going.

todayisnottuesday · 19/03/2020 14:38

We need to pull together as a country if we are to get through this

We need more of people like you @EYProvider. Flowers

Parker231 · 19/03/2020 14:45

If teachers are providing childcare, so be it. DH is a doctor. I’d much rather he wasn’t working at the moment but he doesn’t get a choice if you want healthcare. Too many selfish people at the moment locking themselves away without any thought for those who can’t.

OverByYer · 19/03/2020 14:56

Just for some perspective police officers are being advised that if they live with family members who are self isolating ( including pregnant partners) then they should temporarily live elsewhere so that they can still come to work

Abbyd222 · 19/03/2020 15:49

So disappointed with what I'm reading on this post from some people. I've been in care jobs on shitty pay working my way up to work at a hospital since I left collage and still on a very low salary. Currently on maternity about to give birth any day now but even I'm thinking of leaving my newborn eventually with partner if nhs gets really short staffed to go and help because I feel bad even now at 37 weeks not being there to help. And then there's my partner who would love to be able to keep working threw this but most likely can't and will take a big dent income wise. I think Every one needs to just pull together here why is it our country not being like it but you see others being amazing for each other. I do see some really amazing decent people offering help and thank you to all those people but my god we all have to work together here to keep things going! If I can go back earlier to help and this isn't over by the times my baby has settled and I can express enough milk to leave her to a few shifts I think thats morally what should be done aslong as I don't get told otherwise of course. Please everyone just be kind to one another help any one you can and except help of any one that offers

eachtotheirownnow · 19/03/2020 17:55

Just for some perspective police officers are being advised that if they live with family members who are self isolating ( including pregnant partners) then they should temporarily live elsewhere so that they can still come to work

Who is going to pay for that then?

Paddingtonthebear · 19/03/2020 18:00

There are no easy solutions.

Our infants school have said school will be open next week for key worker children but it will be more pastoral care focusing on wellbeing rather than an educational setting.

Hercwasonaroll · 19/03/2020 18:22

The government have said it won't be education, schools are a childcare setting.
Secondary schools here are setting work online for pupils so any attending will have to do this.

I'd imagine primary will be project based and more "fun" than traditional work.

MrsSnitchnose · 19/03/2020 20:21

Got a call from DS's Head of Year today saying we meet the criteria for him going in next week if we decide. He has ASD and I think it will help him to stay in a routine. I also volunteered to go in on the skeleton staff at my own school today. No idea if I will be needed (technician, not teacher). If not, I will take DS out of school but otherwise, I will do whatever they need me to. Would rather be busy doing something than be sat at home worrying about everything, though I don't blame anyone for making the decisions that work for them

CheekyMango · 19/03/2020 20:36

@Xenia typical non teacher post. It's not just to safeguard students, in this case teachers need more protecting than students in some cases. I know of students who've recorded teachers, doctored the recording and put it online.

littleducks · 20/03/2020 21:05

Cheeky mango - lots of schools are using virtual classrooms though presumably making their own risk assessments about safeguarding.

CheekyMango · 20/03/2020 21:28

And the majority of schools are not and are putting the safeguarding needs of their staff first as per union guidelines @littleducks

TimeforanotherChange · 20/03/2020 21:41

Sorry. Have been busy at work for a few days, mainly dealing with distraught Y11s and Y13s who do not know what will happen with exam grades.

Those of you calling me selfish, I've taken that on board. I am not currently on the rota to come in. I understand many of you are happy to be community minded - but for full disclosure my DD has no real immune system and her baby has had no vaccinations. Was told that he would need to be over 10 months before this happened as the cocktail of drugs she needed to be on (for medical reasons) throughout pregnancy meant they could not do this before. My elderly father - in his 80s - lives alone and has COPD. We are his main carers.

Whilst I've carried on teaching whilst this was necessary I am now wanting to put some distance between myself and children. I do appreciate the NHS, but am not happy to continue into school regularly any longer.

Xenia · 20/03/2020 22:13

Surely there is as much chance a pupil would record a teacher secretly in the classroom on a mobile as if the teacher were giving a skype lesson though?

University lecturers are forced to have every lesson recorded and available for students to watch.

noblegiraffe · 20/03/2020 22:15

Well no, Xenia, because mobile phones are usually banned in schools. Partly for that reason.

And university lecturers aren’t teaching kids, but adults who have actively chosen to be there.

Greentea93 · 20/03/2020 22:33

I’m not a teacher however work in a small nursery. We have been told we need to stay open as we have a large amount of parents who are key workers. I get paid minimum wage and was told if we do not come in that’s it we can leave our jobs. There’s no PPE provided at all, children coughing all day, risk of catching the virus is big
I have a child with ECHP who wouldn’t cope without her usual support in place
So basically I can now either choose risking getting ill and have a very anxious child in school who couldn’t cope or lose my job. At least teachers have a choice to volunteer it seems I haven’t

Ihateselfishbastards · 20/03/2020 22:36

Hopefully we rely on people’s honesty not their selfish fuckwitery!

MyHipsDontLieUnfortunately · 20/03/2020 22:41

@greentea93, given that nurseries are notorious for paying and treating their staff badly at the best of times, I'd leave if I were you and I wouldn't be looking to go back into childcare.

cherrytreeblossom · 20/03/2020 22:49

Our primary school is expecting 119 children on Monday. We also have 197 free school meals to collect and distribute.

All staff required to be in - breakfast club and tea time club continuing as well.

Was daunted and scared at first but I'm proud to be there helping the keyworker parents and safeguarding our very vulnerable children: