To escape UK amid Coronavirus fear?

[roomonthebr00m]

I'm originally from one of the Asian countries where Coronavirus is managed relatively better with high number of ICU beds per 1,000 people and a low mortality rate.

A silly thought maybe. But after looking carefully at the analysis of the government modeling published, I've got scared. I may be refused a bed as I have this condition, if I get I'll during peak. I have an underlying health issues and hearing the worst stories in Italy. Whereas in my home country I feel that at least I will have ICU bed and doctors.

My friend in the country are worried about getting it, getting ill and spreading. But they don't at all worry about not having enough beds or potentially being refused a treatment.

AIBU to fly ASAP before that country closes the boarder with Europe which looks very likely soon?

Jesus Christ - you’re going to leave your poor old mother in law behind.

Obviously, the very worst thing that could happen here is that you die. But you know, there are worst things in life than death. You should remember that amid all this madness.

Your husband only has one mum.

But you said you were guaranteed a bed / ventilator, OP! And now you admit that you aren't.
Can you see how no-one can assume this, no matter where they are?

Some countries (for instance where I am) are telling their citizens to come home if they don't feel good about the health system in the country they are residing in before borders close or as soon as possible afterwards. I would very carefully check that your country is encouraging/allowing this and that you will actually get there, check the policies in whatever countries you need to change planes in.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3852726-NHS-worker-here-Please-self-isolate

This is really quite scary - OP, are you hearing similar stories from the country you're going to?

Going to a cabin in the scottish highlands is also not great for the previous poster who said their neighbour has done that. People here in Norway are being brought back from their remote cabins by the military because it'll be overloading small community healthcare systems who can't cope with a sudden influx of potentially infected visitors. It's irresponsible. Not to mention, what if he gets really ill out there?

OP don't leave your MIL and go. It's risky AF going, more risky than just staying isolated where you are.

Damntheman

I appreciate your view- but a few points. Norway is a vast terrain, Scotland is a very smal country- remote cottages are often within a few hours of major cities like Glasgow or Aberdeen.
By leaving now my neighbour is potentially saving the NHS from his future illness.
He feels his is at greater risk and more potential burden by staying where he is. And I can't judge him for that.
We are all making choices that we think best protects us.

mm He's not though. He's at greater burden by being where the health care system isn't set up for additional numbers, and also by being at distance - a few hours is death when you are having breathing issues, or at least a higher risk requiring more serious intervention which could have been used on someone actually resident in the area. He's also at higher risk by travelling anywhere. So he's being selfish and taking greater risks by taking the actions he has.

YABVU because China has had no additional cases that are homegrown. The new cases are those that people have brought back in from outside.

You are safer staying in your home than risking exposure in an airport or long haul flight

Stop the scare mongering. I swear this board is single handedly driving people’s anxieties through the roof! The NHS will not collapse. It will be hard and difficult decisions may have to be made, but get with it people.

I needed to speak with my Gp. Non urgent. They are doing telephone triage. My GP rang me within 2 hours. Referral made to another health service, another phone consultation within 2 days and an appt booked. I understand that this may vary from area to area. But scaremongering and saying that people cannot get through to GP’s/ healthcare services is simply scaring people and making everyone think the world is ending. It’s not.

I too have friends in frontline NHS. Everyone medically trained is currently remaining calm. And anyone who can triage Patients/ monitor vitals/ do IV’s/ take swabs/ blood will be pivot to doing so in a heartbeat regardless of their actual speciality. Medical students again who have been trained to do this will also be called into help. They’re younger, more resistant to it all.

Everyone will be pulling together. Even a routine prescription went through just fine and is at my pharmacy ready for collection. Paharmacies have stock of calpol/ paracetamol to hand out if someone comes in and says I must get a paracetamol to someone self isolating.

Just, calm. Down. My Dc came home from school and said some children are panicking/ crying over this. In the school. The anxiety is coming from super stressed parents.

We are lucky to live in the Uk and trust me I’d far rather be here than many other places in the world.

Not sure if anyone saw the short film on CH4 News the other night inside an Italian ITU unit? It was devastating - basically a morgue - not one person had survived after weeks on a ventilator.

You are SAFEST not getting it in the first place. Put ALL of your energies into rigorous hygiene and self isolation. All of that travel is increasing your risk at multiple potential infection points that you will have no control over. It would be like running across a 6 lane motorway when you have the option just to stay on one side. Did you see Chicago airport in the news - just as massive Petri dish. Are you going to scrub down every toilet cubical, seat etc you encounter on this multi stop long haul flight?

The man gone to Scotland is not reducing his risk by renting someone else’s house - unless he disinfects it top to toe - he has increased it - as well on the journey - and that the local healthcare provision will now be overloaded for him and others.

In times of panic we fight, flight or freeze.

The virus is amongst us already and will continue to be - so control what you can - you can control rigorous hygiene in your own home - you can’t control the outside world or the unknowns about how and when and where this will peak. You have no idea if you were to fall ill in 16 weeks time in country x what the ratio of patients to ITU provision would be. Control what you can don’t put extra risk of infection on yourself.