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Not closing schools

118 replies

SkaLaLand · 16/03/2020 18:05

Why does no-one seem to understand the reasons for this?

  1. Children are super spreaders and need to be kept safely away from the vulnetable.
  2. They are affected very mildly by the virus.
  3. It discourages idiotic parents jollying off with them on holiday.
  4. It keeps parents in work and the economy moving.
  5. Some vulnerable children only get to eat and be in safety for they time they are at school. Think how weeks of closure would affect them.
  6. Children keep learning.

I feel that people are losing all perspective on this situation. Very few children and healthy adults are at risk.

Surely protecting the vulnerable with the current guidelines and maintaining the status quo for the rest of us is the best way forward?

Knowing that my children are safe and maintaining relative normality means I can concentrate on the members of my family that really need me, my very elderly grandparents and disabled mother.

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BoudiccaBo · 16/03/2020 18:07

Hear, hear. 👍

edgewater · 16/03/2020 18:08

Bravo.

Wolfiefan · 16/03/2020 18:09

What if you’re in a vulnerable group? I can avoid non essential travel but if I have to take my child to school I’m having direct and indirect contact with loads of people.

undead · 16/03/2020 18:13

I agree.
I don't see the problem
My parents abroad are self isolating as told by their government. They don't have any contact to children. My sister isn't visiting them with hers.
PIL here are doing the same. They don't see their grandchildren.

I think it's good kids go to school. Vulnerable people need to self isolate if they want to stay safe.

GreenTulips · 16/03/2020 18:16

So you thought about the teachers TAs school cooks cleaners caretakers secretaries governors sports coaches dinner staff

What if they are vulnerable and self isolate? Who’s going to look after the kids then?

Pasqual · 16/03/2020 18:16

Absolutely. The amount of people who had made the decision to keep their kids off school, but are quite happy to drag them round the shops absolutely baffles me.

Obviously every families circumstances are totally different, but if you're pulling them out of school then common sense should be applied with social distancing otherwise we are going to end up in a further muddle!!

Daffodil101 · 16/03/2020 18:18

I fully agree. People need to calm this shit down and hold their nerve

heartheal · 16/03/2020 18:18

I don’t understand why I should avoid social contact with others but I’m allowed to interact with 200 adults and children in school each day.

strawberrylipgloss · 16/03/2020 18:20

What about the adults who work in schools? Some of them will have underlying health conditions, be pregnant or care for elderly or vulnerable people.

motherrunner · 16/03/2020 18:22

^ This.

5 x classes of 30 a day, walking through crowded corridors, break duties, parents evening this week, meetings, mentoring sessions at lunchtimes with Yr 11 and Yr 13 but everyone else can isolate 🤔

AgnesNaismith · 16/03/2020 18:23

Hahaha where are the parents going on holiday to, OP?

What about the vulnerable parents the children are bringing the germs home to?

Pollyputthepizzaon · 16/03/2020 18:24

Hear hear! You are correct.

undead · 16/03/2020 18:27

What about the adults who work in schools? Some of them will have underlying health conditions, be pregnant or care for elderly or vulnerable people.

Or doctors, nurses, paramedics or police?

winterisstillcoming · 16/03/2020 18:27

While I agree that schools should be open, if there are not enough staff, or a parent has to risk theirs or others' safety to get the child to school then they should be supported in their decision to keep them home.

We have had people send their children into school even though they had a temp on the weekend.

Streamingbannersofdawn · 16/03/2020 18:29

Well I'm worried and I consider myself reasonably sensible. My husband is working from home...meanwhile I'm closely interacting with young children all day, personal care, dealng with parents and carers dropping off and collecting, meetings. I'll carry on without complaint but I do feel that teachers, Ta's etc are being rather taken for granted here. Plus there is no directive over what to do when our ratios inevitably get hit.

Streamingbannersofdawn · 16/03/2020 18:30

I can barely get families to comply with the 48hr rule for D and V much less be sensible off this?

SkaLaLand · 16/03/2020 18:31

🙄 to the 'but what about ME' comments.

Surely you realise that we all have to do the best we can for the bigger majority. This is so that those of you who ARE vulnerable can get the care you need when you need it.

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Michaelbaubles · 16/03/2020 18:33

Doctors, nurses, paramedics and police can’t send their patients and the public home. Teachers can. It makes no sense for me to avoid public places and social gatherings and then walk into a building of 1000 super spreaders with poor hygiene every single day, coming within a metre of them multiple times per day.

SkaLaLand · 16/03/2020 18:33

@winterisstillcoming agreed but this should be on a case by case basis.

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Frequency · 16/03/2020 18:36

I see both sides. I can work from home if I need to but understand not many people can, especially essential workers like Drs, nurses, care workers etc. They need their kids to be in school or to be provided with adequate alternatives. Exams are just around the corner for many students, the disruption to them needs to be considered.

Otoh, I have asthma, if my little super spreader brings it home from school I won't just be a little bit poorly. Don't get me wrong. I don't think it's an automatic death sentence but knowing how general flu and coughs and colds effect me I will at best end up on a course of steroids and be off work for several weeks. I can work from home to protect myself but there is little point in doing so if one of the people in my home is spending 6 hours a day, five days a week surrounded by 1200 other superspreaders. I've pretty much accepted the fact that I will get it now since precisely zero is being done to protect me and I am prone to respiratory infections due to having had TB when I was a child. I'm stocking up on inhalers and making sure to take my preventative to make it as mild as possible when I do get it.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 16/03/2020 18:37

‘Work from home’ ‘avoid non essential contact’ ‘avoid gatherings’

In my school today, l taught a class that were crammed into a tiny room. 5 different classes spreading their germs everywhere.

I was trained to teach. Not to manage an infectious virus in unsterile, unhygienic and frankly filthy conditions.

Why should l as a teacher deal with this going against everything the wonderful Boris has said?

Schools are the most infectious places in the world but we have to keep going in. Well believe me, the unions are onto this big time. No risk assessments done for staff in schools, no assessing who would be better not coming in. Nothing. Nada. Nothing. We don’t count.

SkaLaLand · 16/03/2020 18:38

Perhaps it is just my DC school who have introduced new strict hygiene measures.

They currently have the children;

  1. Washing hands as they walk in, before break, after break, before eating and after lunch and before they leave as well as if they cough or sneeze.
  2. Daily in assembly reinforcing the importance of catch it, bin it, kill it.
  3. Implementing classroom deep cleans.
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TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 16/03/2020 18:39

Most secondary classrooms don’t have accessible sinks.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 16/03/2020 18:40

theEmoji

A teacher told me that a union was considering going on strike...no idea how true that is

Didiusfalco · 16/03/2020 18:44

I feel the same as a few of the previous posters - what’s the point of me avoiding pubs, restaurants etc Boris, if you’re happy for me to be in contact with hundreds of kids and a large number of adults? If you look at a map of Europe, virtually all the schools are closed - we’re the outlier. Are all these countries wrong - really??