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To think “selfishness” is human nature

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Babygirl66 · 16/03/2020 14:31

I am not saying that it is right, but it’s only obvious that in this situation people are only going to think about themselves and going to be selfish towards other people Therefore I don’t get why Everyone is acting so angry and surprised when someone takes all the Loo roll/hand sanitiser etc. Be completely honest If there was only one hand sanitiser left and it was you and a little old lady what would you do?

Obviously I think shops should be doing more like In my opinion Tesco’s five policy is way too high and it should be one or two. There is no need for five of anything.

But I just wish everyone would stop this if we all work together bullshit, as literally no one cares and naturally the most important person to most people is themselves.

I’m not saying it’s right, but that’s the way it is.

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managedmis · 16/03/2020 15:17

What delights op and mozzchops are.
I now think a population cull wouldn't be that deleterious

^^
Pot. Kettle. Black.

Paintedmaypole · 16/03/2020 15:18

I am a fairly old lady ( not little). I would not expect to get an intensive care bed if a mother of young children also needed it but I would scrap with a greedy fucker who was grabbing all the loo rolls. It's about fairness.

MauriceandAlec · 16/03/2020 15:23

Another one who thinks MN is full of shit. We're all selfish

I agree. Some people never lose an opportunity to virtue signal or scold others. All this shock that some people are going to restaurants but everyone who has to (and it's a lot of people) still going out to work and often having to use public transport to get there if they don't drive or can't afford a car.

LeahDownTheLane · 16/03/2020 15:32

Hand sanitiser yes, tea on the hand would be a very different story.
Our larder cupboard is full and we have probably three-four weeks of food and plenty of toilet roll but we always stock up over winter incase of snow as it’s impossible to leave the village. I went shopping on Saturday and stocked up on basics and cupboard bits, not for me but for my Grandad who thinks all the rain we’ve had brought on this virus from the ground...honestly. This was enough to know he’s not going to be at all prepared for anything.

Tigger001 · 16/03/2020 15:35

I think it is a natural feeling to protect "you and yours" and put them first. The instinct is normal, but then not acting on your natural instinct is what makes us civilised.

If it was life or death, yes he would be put before everyone, including myself and my hubby. But in the day to day of life, we always put the more needy first, if that's us then we come first, if it's the old man down the road, it's him or the homeless person, it's them.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 16/03/2020 15:38

Another one who thinks MN is full of shit. We're all selfish

Op asked a specific question...and got specific answers,

For what its worth i would leave the hand sanitizer...in the same way i left the last anti bac hand wash

BUT yeah people are selfish..at the moment i can afford to NOT be selfish, but give me a yell in a months time and see how well i held up (I’ll crumple like an old style tenner)

The80sweregreat · 16/03/2020 15:38

People can be kind and horrible in equal measure. My mum was 14 when WW2 broke out and even she used to say the whole ' war time spirt' could go sour at times and not everyone stuck to the rules regarding rationing etc! The black market did exist and not all evacuees went to people that wanted kids from London!
Of course people did look out for each other bit mostly their own. People are more selfish these days but I don't think it was all rosy years ago either!

JuggleBug · 16/03/2020 15:39

I've said this on another thread actually. Not quite about the situation you describe and I do agree actually that this panic buying is ridiculous but about why some people may not self isolate for every minor cough/temperature.

There's a lot of people who frankly just cannot afford it. And yes you are right, human beings are selfish by nature. When it comes to surviving, in this case paying bills, putting food on the table etc... It's not as much of a 'no brainer' as people on here like to tell you it is. Fact of the matter is a lot of people can't afford to live off £90 a week. A lot of people don't have big savings they can fall back on. A lot of people don't have a mortgage lender offering them payment breaks, they rent. The list goes on. I've seen people saying 'if you self isolate for a week you'll only lose £300ish' as if everyone in the country is in the fortunate position of losing £300 not really affecting them that much. It's a bloody fantasy land these people live in and not the reality for a lot of others.

If you vote for a government that cuts benefits, jobs, wages, doesn't restrict zero hour contracts etc... Then this is the result. People literally cannot afford to follow their advice and it's no one's fault but theirs (and the fuckwits that voted for them but that's another thread).

I agree absolutely though that people shouldn't be going out buying ten loo rolls. But panic breeds panic. I've text DH (not at home right now) asking him to go and get a pack of loo rolls in case the shops run out. Not 5, but just one. If everyone who goes in the shops buys one pack of loo roll in case they aren't able to get any later, they aren't going to last all day, it's. It isn't necessarily people buying 5 or 10.

You, me and every other Tom, Dick and Harry are selfish when it comes to our own (and our families) survival. Like it or not it's how we're built.

PhilCornwall1 · 16/03/2020 15:41

I think it is a natural feeling to protect "you and yours" and put them first. The instinct is normal, but then not acting on your natural instinct is what makes us civilised.

Agreed, but if anyone got in between me and my family in a bad situation, I wouldn't think twice about doing away with them.

hamstersarse · 16/03/2020 15:45

It is obvious that I would give it to the person who actually needs it! I am not in a risk group. The selfish bastards buying it all up when they aren't even at massive risk of complications are bastards.

I have been horrified by how fucking selfish and greedy have been in this 'crisis'. I have friends who are being selfish twats buying up everything they can because they have the cash. They literally don't give a shit that someone who might actually need it now can't get hold of it.

I am very upset that I am starting to see friends I have known for many years in a different light.

JuggleBug · 16/03/2020 15:47

Agree about the handgel, I'd leave it for the old woman personally because I'm not at any massive risk.

If I were out shopping for my elderly grandparent or my immunocompromised child/husband/parent who is though... 🤷 who knows maybe I wouldn't.

People will automatically think of themselves and theirs first in difficult situations unfortunately.

DioneTheDiabolist · 16/03/2020 16:01

I think it is a natural feeling to protect "you and yours" and put them first.

It is Tigger001. Particularly when we are frightened. But when things settle somewhat, altruism and common sense kick back in to most people. Spaniards were panic buying a week ago, but it had calmed down by the time the lockdown came into place.

Some people are already realising their eejitry and sharing their loo roll stash with with those in their community who need it.

Devlesko · 16/03/2020 16:02

OP, please don't judge by your standards.
Any decent person would let the old person take the hand gel.
There are decent people and selfish wankers.

A senior cardiologist (retired) went into a shop and bought his rationed 4 bottles of sanitizer. Then went in a further 6 times.
Not a person I like, but unfortunately have to see sometimes.

Daddypigsglasses · 16/03/2020 16:08

I think there are some very lovely people in the world BUT I most people are selfish. I also think most people are lazy.

I don’t think it has always been this way though, I think it’s a product of a society where people expect to get what they want, when they want. Nothing to do with hand sanitiser but driving/parking are good examples where this is prevelant in our society. You only have to look at the way people park, blocking pavements, over peoples drives etc... using spaces not for them because “they’re not legally enforcable”.

jmcg2015 · 16/03/2020 16:08

@PhilCornwall1 just because you are being honest doesn't mean your attitude isn't truly horrific, honesty doesn't absolve you of behaving badly lol nice try though

PhilCornwall1 · 16/03/2020 16:14

@jmcg2015 I'm certainly not absolving myself of anything whatsoever, why would I?

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Babygirl66 · 16/03/2020 22:14

Sorry for the late reply I felt tied and went to sleep

I want to make something very clear i am not saying that to do this is right and of course would put people more needy in front

I was just generally interested in what people thought are and Where the line is drawn between looking after others and protecting yourself.

I would also like to apologise to the person who thought what I said was so bad I deserved to be killed over it. you are right it should definitely be a serious crime to ask a question that could get some controversial answers. Fuck it should warrant hanging to come back. So sorry you complete cunt

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Babygirl66 · 16/03/2020 22:14

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