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AIBU to tell a family returning from Spain that they can’t come in for 7 days

63 replies

Freddiefox · 15/03/2020 23:16

I manage a nursery and a family is returning from Spain this week from a holiday.

Would I be unreasonable to tell them they can’t come back for 7 days.

The guidance for schools : specified counties and areas with implications for returning travellers or visitors arriving in the UK in the last 14 has been withdrawn and replaced with

Stay at home: guidance for people with symptoms of covid 19.
They aren’t showing any symptoms yet

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londonrach · 16/03/2020 07:00

14 days but really needs to be three weeks!

BaronessBomburst · 16/03/2020 07:04

I would tell them to stay away for 14 days. I'm in NL where the government are actually taking this seriously. Although on that basis, you would be closing the nursery altogether. Childcare here is now only available for key workers.
They choose to go away; don't put your other clients at risk.

Ihatesocialmedia · 16/03/2020 07:04

I suspect it’s futile to ask them to not come in for either 7 or 14 days. Depending where you live you probably already have widespread community transmission or will very soon.

I couldn't agree more! Pointless trying to stop it in my opinion

flossletsfloss · 16/03/2020 07:07

Absolutely. Do it. You would feel terrible if everyone got it off this person. Government advice is ridiculous.

GetyourFaLaLasRight · 16/03/2020 07:27

Not that it affects the decision but will the family be charged by the nursery for the two weeks?

Lionsleepstonight · 16/03/2020 07:31

Asking them to stay away for 14 would pacify the parents, but its a bit rich if you charge them too.

selfisolate · 16/03/2020 07:33

Id say stay away for 14 days. I dont know how many kids are attending the nursery, but small children arn`t known for being too careful over personal space and hygiene! IF this child did spread CV think how it could turn out for the nursery (bad name for a while?), staff, other families, a deep clean= more work....plus many grandparents do pick ups? BUT as a sign of goodwill waver the charges for the family or something?

RomeoLikedCapuletGirls · 16/03/2020 07:40

I couldn't agree more! Pointless trying to stop it in my opinion

It’s not about trying to stop it. It’s about trying to delay it.

CarolinaPink · 16/03/2020 07:41

YANBU.

Sometimes we have to take what seems to be the sensible decision for ourselves, in the absence of what appears to be sensible guidance from the government.

Aspoonfullofjam · 16/03/2020 08:04

YANBU the information and advice is changing daily. In work last Monday a workmate casually mentioned another team member was coming back from Spain on Wednesday. I approached boss and asked what the approach was re staying away from the office (we can easily work from home and have a policy for so some 1-2 days a week anyway in normal circumstance). I was told advice was he could come in. I kicked up a fuss and the boss contacted him and he kindly agreed to work from home for the rest of that week as a precaution. Two days later (two days where he would’ve been in the office) the Government advice changed to stay home for two weeks if you’re returning from Spain.

Aspoonfullofjam · 16/03/2020 08:05

(Not in the UK)

Wiaa · 16/03/2020 08:10

It's up to you what rules you put in place but you can't charge them for the time as you have broken the contract against current guidelines (whatever you think of them) and you may lose them as clients when this is all over.

NailsNeedDoing · 16/03/2020 08:12

You could offer them the opportunity to stay away and not charge them while ensuring they keep their place.

If you want them to stay away against current government guidelines then that’s a reasonable decision, but you can’t expect them to pay for a service you are personally choosing not to provide.

pandarific · 16/03/2020 11:42

This is a U.K. nurse and medical trainer explaining why the current government guidance is very irresponsible and the importance of flattening the curve.

Fundamentally, a lot of people will die with the government's current approach.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=QIuzLf9f5WI

Original poster
Freddiefox · 16/03/2020 13:19

They are funded parents so no charge to them, they are happy to stay at home. As it seems were a lot of my children.

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PinkiOcelot · 16/03/2020 13:25

Well one of the companies near where my daughter works have had to shut down because an employee came back from Spain on the Wednesday. No symptoms. Went to work on Thursday and Friday. Took ill over the weekend so probably infected all of the colleagues he came into contact with.
I think if this gets out of control (or more out of control) it is down to stupid people.

Pumpkinpie1 · 16/03/2020 14:00

With 2 family members immunity compromised I would be livid that they could be put at risk by nursery having a blasé attitude to public health.
I think anyone who Has been abroad should be under a 14 day self isolation curfew.

Pumpkinpie1 · 16/03/2020 14:02

My. Friend is in hospital at mo and said the husband of a lady in the next bay has just said they came home from holiday in Spain last week!

Original poster
Freddiefox · 16/03/2020 16:06
  • With 2 family members immunity compromised I would be livid that they could be put at risk by nursery having a blasé attitude to public health. I think anyone who Has been abroad should be under a 14 day self isolation curfew.*

I think you should be livid at the government tbh, we are all just trying to muddle through with very little info from the government. Tbh I’ve made rules which seem like common sense to me but are far stricter than the government guidelines. But I’m sure there are lots of employers who don’t feel the same and encourage worker to return to work ASAP.

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rivertoskateaway · 16/03/2020 16:17

YANBU. My husband’s work isn’t allowing anyone to come in for 7 days after being abroad (also UK)

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 16/03/2020 16:23

This is not just a flipping flu!

I don't think some people realise just how dangerous the actual flu can be. An awful lot of people seem to confuse the flu with a cold.

filka · 16/03/2020 16:27

YABU to think as short as 7 days. YANBU to ask for a minimum of 14, maybe more.

Unless they were on one of the 5 flights that turned around in mid-air and came back to the UK without landing.

Indella · 16/03/2020 23:22

If they are happy to stay at home and it isn’t costing them anything then there’s no question surely as you’re not banning them.

Boom45 · 17/03/2020 03:09

If they're happy to stay away and you're not charging them just ask them to stay away. Its not like you're going to have to lots of people returning from Spain/Italy/China because they're stopping all flights so it's a one off and they're happy to stay away.
My Mum (hopefully) gets back from Spain tomorrow, I'm going to stay away from her for a week. Although the area of Spain shes in has no current cases she will have just spent a few hours on a plane/in an airport...

Undecided91 · 17/03/2020 03:19

Definitely they need to self isolate for 14days!!! My boss just came back from Spain and now is working from.home for 2 weeks. I still think people who went ahead with their holidays ie juast last week are utterly stupid. But here we go. All other Eu countries are banning any travel whatsoever so people in uk should at least follow self isolation guidance

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