Gobsmacked at the UKs approach to this!

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I’m just honestly baffled, I have read and watched interesting and informative interviews about herd immunity and how “ideally” all the old and vulnerable would be up in north Scotland or something but, that’s not feasible?

Are their enough ICU beds to facilitate this madness? Why are the UK the only country taking this approach?
How are people not furious at the government for taking this hunger games style approach?

Please don’t flame me, I’m happy to be educated. I mean no offense but I’m utterly bewildered.

*there

No there is not enough beds
Its like the titanic movie with the boats best way to describe it
And they said there not doing it for herd immunity they dont know what there doing
Only the strongest will survive

Jesus, it’s the most shocking thing about all of this.

Why don’t they think it’ll end exactly like Italy? Maybe it won’t, I really hope not but what measures are they taking to ensure it doesn’t?

Appropriate with St Patrick’s Day approaching but I’m so proud of how the Irish government are handling this. So much financial support for people who can’t work, huge push to work from home. Schools closed, pubs closed as of 6pm tonight.

I'm not saying I agree with the approach, just explaining it as I understand it.
They think it is currently too early to take drastic measures like closing schools, because there is a limit to how long you can do those things for. So, while the NHS is coping they will let it play out (of course "coping" is subjective and many people would argue the nhs already wasn't coping due to chronic underfunding). As the situation gets more serious, they will take more and more action.

I would assume their worry is that places like, for example, Ireland will have to reopen the schools at some point. You realistically cannot keep the schools/shops/restaurants closed until the disease disappears. So what will happen when the schools reopen? An increase in cases? Do you have to close the schools again? I think the Uk government is thinking that they have one shot at taking drastic measures and they can't go on forever so you have to make sure you play that card at the right time.
To be clear, I think you can find many flaws in this plan and haven't written it here to defend it!
But I would be interested to hear the long term plans of France, Spain and Ireland. A few months in lockdown and then what? This won't have disappeared in a few months and they'll struggle to reopen things without seeing a surge in cases. I'm sure they do have a plan for that, I'd just be interested to know what it is.

I suspect Italy and others' long term plans are to get to summer, when the virus will naturally abate, then hope a vaccine has been developed quickly enough to administer before the inevitable winter rise.

I suspect Italy and others' long term plans are to get to summer, when the virus will naturally abate, then hope a vaccine has been developed quickly enough to administer before the inevitable winter rise.

That's probably true. I wonder how big of a gamble that is - I know nothing about vaccine development so no idea of the likelihood of a quick vaccine.

But surely the idea of a lockdown would be to contain the virus and treat the infected people. Isolating for 2 weeks to a month would allow the virus to run its its course in both the symptomatic and asymptomatic? Giving a clearer picture and enabling us to slow the spread and protect the vulnerable?

Letting it just blaze like an out of control forest fire seems absolutely unbelievable cruel!

It won't ever die and go away OP! It'll come back every winter - same as seasonal flu.

SARS hasn’t come back every winter?

It's here now! COVID 19 is also SARS2

Oh I've just seen this glib explanation for 'Boris's plan' on Facebook. So many bloody holes in this patronising nonsense I don't no where to begin.

*I am going to try and fill in the gaps from Boris plan to explain it

His plan is to segregate all vulnerable people (older, ill and at risk) let’s call this group A

Anyone looking after the older,ill and at risk can be group B

The general population generally healthy can be group C

Group C needs to go about it’s business keeping the country moving kids at school us at work

Group B looks after group A and avoids contact with C

Group C is allowed to contract the virus and because it’s generally healthy it can cope with it better than group A

Group A and B are almost self isolating without the virus to avoid putting strain on the NHS and reducing the risk of getting the virus and then needing the NHS

Group C (the generally healthy) go through the cycle of contracting the virus self isolating and being looked after by healthy family members, friends and the local community
Anyone who has complications gets looked after by the NHS while groups A and B are kept away The NHS are not strained by A and B while its looking after complicated cases in C

As group C comes full circle and recovers it divides in to groups that take group B’s position looking after group A allowing group B to go though the cycle

With B and C though the cycle
A is free to have NHS to itself because B and C are now clear from illness and infection and hopefully have a degree of immunity from getting it again this season.

Hope this helps those that are worried or not sure of the plan

Everyone has a job to do for the above to work

Big love to all stay safe and look after each other ❤️*

Covid 19 is not the same virus as SARS though. Its genetically related but not the same as SARS.

Yes and it’s hasn't been making an annual winter appearance?

This just strikes me as some eejit doing a science experiment despite so many countries doing everything they can to slow this thing and save lives. It’s really at odds with every other country.
35 deaths, actual human beings. It’s nuts!