Why no identities/solid statistics?

[starrysimon]

Excuse me if I sound foolish but wondering If anyone knows any more info than I do and can be of assistance. I’m not saying it’s a
‘conspiracy’ or no one has died as that’s incredibly naive. I hope that I am not being disrespectful with this post.

Why are there no identities to those that have died? Out of all of the people that have unfortunately suffered in Italy we haven’t been given any specific groups like young people or children. Out of everyone in the U.K. only Conor McGregor’s aunt has been identified within the media and even then no age or health status has been given.

The government are now saying someone that wasn’t ‘high risk’ has died. That’s a great piece of info but not so useful if they don’t tell us the specifics like their age. Why are they not sharing these things with us? Without sounding insensitive, the media are very quick to release identities and information about those who have died due to other unfortunate circumstances but not this virus? I understand there may be a level of the relatives wanting privacy but surely it should eventually be public knowledge so those who have been in contact with them and their family can be prepared for the virus and we can all learn from the statistics. I.e. if it’s killing anyone up to the age of 60 with no health issues then we do have a reason to panic.

not one person has said my gran, aunt, sister, fourth cousin whatever is in hospital with this or has died from this

Have you not read my posts? This is NOT true so stop with the conspiracy theories.

It's not the names, it's the ages. I want to know how old people are when they die from this.

twitter.com/GovMurphy/status/1238981212678619136

This is a report from NJ, no one in ICU is over 48 all cases are aged 28 - 48, this doctor is trying to warn other nations.

I find it odd that information being printed isn't matching public knowledge.

We had article about no cases in an area. Yet a person was in icu with it. My parents have chemo at that hospital.

It's things like this the cause the distrust. Not the fact we don't know everything about this virus except it's deadly.

Names are released after an accident, crime etc because it's completely different to what is happening here.
This is an ongoing situation. Publicly identifying individuals and families will do nothing other than cause additional issues for those families.

AlternativePerspective that’s very understandable and would be awful to experience, especially after the unfair death of a loved one. It’s quite a sensitive and difficult situation as where is the line between privacy and the right to know if you may have also been infected?

I know someone who has died , he was elderly and in hospital with other issues . They said he didn't have it so his daughter (this is my family friend) visited him. He then died and they confirmed he had it, and she also now has it

The families of those who have died are likely self isolating and grieving. The last thing on their minds will be ringing the papers, not everyone is a total famewhore.
Hell I can't imagine having to organise a funeral right now, when people are wary of travel and being in groups.

WHO publish a daily situation report which tells you more than 'who died' and is more useful as a tool.

There are also several sources publishing the data including breakdown of cases, severity and deaths by age, sex and risk groups. It's very easy to find online and to corroborate by checking more than one reliable source.

The identity of the 21 fatalities in the UK won't tell you much, the global stats are more relevant.

bluntness that's not true.
I know someone who had a family member hospitalised with this week's ago and someone at DHs work was a confirmed case last week.
Also, a friend of friends mum died this weekend. They were in hospital with other serious health issues.

There is no conspiracy

Conor McGregor is not in the UK and his aunt died of a heart attack. Hth.

We know it's largely elderly people who have died in Italy.

Interesting the granddaughter that confirmed her grandfathers death on twitter - even she is using the tag coverup

I think that says it all really.

I've seen some really horrible posts about someone with confirmed Covid 19 (they are fine as far as I know, recovering at home) but basically identifying them in the same way criminals are often identified on social media.

So I can see why. Plus it's probably going to get to the point where there will be so many it won't be worth even reporting it in the news let alone identifying them individually.

I agree OP. I think it’s really odd.

CodeNameDuchess can you provide a link for the WHO report that shows the ages please I can only find the same information as on Worldometer and BNO News

Thanks

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/how-many-will-die-of-coronavirus-in-the-uk-a-closer-look-at-the-numbers

I wonder if the grandaughter on Twitter was implying her grandfathers death wasnt recorded on the initial report, hence cover up.

They refused to test him even though they asked until he had died, and then it was too late as she had been in contact with him and has a child with 3 heart conditions so at risk.

I know someone who works at a major London hospital she told me on Tuesday someone had died that day, it wasn’t added on to our total number of deaths though, do you think they could be not telling us the truth about number of people who have died? I don’t know what to think but I understand how people need to know it’s serious but not to panic them.

I’ve seen one lost on Facebook saying ‘my husband just died from CV’ but that’s it.

I think this thread perfectly shows why people don’t want to say coupled with the fact that grieving anyway and that is a private thing

"I know someone who works at a major London hospital she told me on Tuesday someone had died that day, it wasn’t added on to our total number of deaths though, do you think they could be not telling us the truth about number of people who have died?"

No, because too many people would know about the death. Hospitals are very gossipy places, and HCPs generally have high levels of integrity. You'd need a whole barrel full of bad apples in pretty much every hospital to pull off that type of conspiracy.

But you do get a brief lag as deaths are reported and information checked before being added to the published stats. Especially if it was a newly admitted patient and they still await the test results