Over 70s to self isolate

[Dodie66]

Over 70s are going to be told to self isolate even if they don’t have the virus and this will be coming in 5-20 days and last 4 months
www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-coronavirus-over-70s-told-21694397?fbclid=IwAR2k9MqPf7vOzNcnqfVroLXVp0sQjYRmihHKBiL9pvdhSi5780WpYkgFNnI

[MirandaWest]

An amount of the elderly weren’t born until after WW2. And even those who are 80 (and so alive throughout) didn’t really have much to do with whether they survived or not

[Alsohuman]

An amount of the elderly weren’t born until after WW2. And even those who are 80 (and so alive throughout) didn’t really have much to do with whether they survived or not

We were brought up by the generation that were adults through it. They’ve passed on resilience and stoicism. I’m not sure why we didn’t manage it in raising the next generation.

[MarshaBradyo]

Be resilient and stay home. It’s hard but since they can adjust well then that’s better.

[MarshaBradyo]

All this moaning about the advice isn’t resilience.

[definitelygc]

The strong words with the parents seems to have worked. They've done an online shop and are saying they will limit trips outdoors to driving to the local park for the next couple of weeks. Whether or not they follow through on any of this is another question but at least they seem to be taking it a bit more seriously now.

[redwoodmazza]

I think the consequences are that if they catch the virus, they are not likely to get priority for hospital treatment due to their advanced years. There's just not enough equipment or beds.

Stay in. Stay alive.

Your choice...

[Alsohuman]

Accordingly to the 1pm news, over 70s aren’t being told to stay at home tomorrow, just avoid large gatherings.

[Alsohuman]

Meanwhile, Transport Secretary Grant Shapps confirmed the over-70s will soon be asked to stay at home for an extended period to protect themselves.
But he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme they would still be able to go for a walk outside: "It's about being sensible but not mixing in crowds," he said.

[Rosehip10]

I'm sick of jingoistic talk from some elderly people about "the war" as if it has any relevance to the situation. The allies "won" ww1 - did that mean no Spanish flu deaths in Britain/France/America ffs.

[MarshaBradyo]

Agree it’s ridiculous and just an excuse to be stubbornly selfish.

[UYScuti]

I think they are starting with the elderly partly because they feel it will be easier to make them fearful and compliant, once they have been successfully incentivized to comply it will be easier to extend this to the rest of us.
If we accept that lockdown is necessary to deal with this crisis then it is better if we can achieve it with the least amount of civil unrest

[UYScuti]

All this stuff about the war and insisting that they will go to their social clubs is bravado, ultimately and broadly speaking it will be easier to make old people compliant compared to younger people

[MarshaBradyo]

I’m ready for it now. Badgering dh to wfh, might keep dc home, no latter than end of this week. People being so stubborn are baffling to me. Be safer.

[FightingFiles]

Did all these older people that are refusing to follow advice "live through the war" by turning on all the lights during a blackout? Because that is the equivalent.

But no they didn't, because an 80yr old today was 14 when rationing ended, so it was their parents that did all the legwork really. They need to shut up about the bloody war.

They are not just endangering themselves by "taking their chances" they are endangering every health professional that will see them - did they notice the late 40's paramedic that has died in Italy? There will be more of them, and nurses and doctors that are trying to help people that didn't give a single thought to them. Ok so they don't want ventilating, good for them, but who do they think will be giving palliative care to them, with their viral loads off the scale and their pneumonia raging?

Refusing to stay in despite the government (and the WHO, for that matter) telling you to does not seem very public spirited or resilient to me. It's plain selfish.

[UYScuti]

Yes but they paid their taxes and worked hard all their lives and now it's their time to relax and enjoy life

[UYScuti]

Sarcasm obvs...

[MarshaBradyo]

They can enjoy it for another ten plus years if they just separate from everyone else for 4 months.

[MarshaBradyo]

Better than the alternative.

[FightingFiles]

When my kids had chickenpox I stayed in for a month with a 9mth old and a 2year old.

Maybe I should have just carried on as normal as I didn't want to miss 'my clubs', and let everybody else 'take their chances'.

[Lincolnfield]

Let’s be clear! I’m not hearing any of the older people that I know moaning about the guidance. They might be upset and anxious which might suggest a bit more kindness and compassion from younger people wouldn’t go amiss. Everyone I know in the relevant age group will comply, because, unlike the younger generation we were all brought up to do as we are told. Parenting by negotiation is an unknown concept to those of us born in the forties and fifties.

What they ARE moaning about And shocked and hurt by is the rampant ageism and abuse they are receiving from some of you as though older people are single handedly responsible for everything you lot don’t like.

We had Brexit where anyone over the age of sixty who voted leave was publicly vilified and now everyone over seventy is a walking hotbed of disease.

I’ve not heard anyone except my 90 year old uncle talk about the war. The only people banging on about war are the young people who keep saying ‘we’re in a war situation’. If somebody in their seventies can’t remember the war, I’m curious why thirty and forty year olds are such experts on what constitutes a war situation.

I’m surprised you don’t expect everyone over seventy to carry a bell and shout ‘unclean, unclean’.

[MarshaBradyo]

If people are scared in rl yes compassion is needed. We’ll have to step up to make sure neighbours are ok (online preferably).

It’s the endless posts on this thread about how they won’t that has prompted the response.

[MarshaBradyo]

But they don’t need a bell because we will be separated.

[Lincolnfield]

@MarshaBrayo Oh the arrogance of youth! My sister is a district nurse. Most of her elderly patients can hardly manage a landline phone and you think they’re going to master Skype - on the computers they don’t have or FaceTime on the mobile phones they don’t understand?

Get real!

Just a conundrum for you. I’m mid sixties and still a clinically active specialist nurse involved in the training of junior doctors so am I rapidly approaching being a ‘selfish old biddy’ and a scourge on the younger generation or a hard working and vital cog in the healthcare system. Just wondering?

[MarshaBradyo]

Oh do stop it. I have parents you know on the other side if of the world. We communicate.

If they can’t do that then out a bird through the door. I dgaf how people reach out.

[MarshaBradyo]

Put a note through the door.