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No stat. sick pay if you earn less than £118 week.

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Everythingpeachy · 12/03/2020 10:38

‘Office for National Statistics estimate 1,766,000 jobs done by adults in the UK that paid less than £118 a week.

About 70% of these jobs are done by women’.

So if you have to self isolate because you display symptoms of Coronavirus and think it sensible to stay off work, perhaps because you work with disease-vulnerable people etc, and you earn less than £118 week, you will be off work unpaid for the duration.

Stat sick pay is also only available if you’ve been in the job for 12 months at least.

That’s all zero hours contract workers, retail workers (like me) many of us on minimum hours contracts (generally 6, 8 or 12 hour weekly contracts), etc.

How exactly does the rent get paid without wages coming in and you’re not eligible for housing benefit? If you’re off work for 2 weeks maybe the rent just has to be late, if you’re off for 2 months, what landlord is going to allow that sort of financial delay?

We only have around £50 a month in tax credits due to an overpayment debt with them-that’s our only other income source. At present we bring in less than £1500 month I estimate for a family of 4. Our rent and bills alone are £2000. Credit card debt has stacked up phenomenally recently.

My employer is horrendous at the best of times. Many of our staff are young and constantly pulling fake sickies, every week someone is off at least 1-2 shifts a week, and there’s only 8 staff in total.

Our town now has confirmed coronavirus cases in schools.

With Easter school holidays just 2 weeks away at least I’d be guaranteed holiday pay when I’m off with my kids then (well, a whole 12 hours of pay for two weeks, whoopee).

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PawPawNoodle · 12/03/2020 11:06

It has always been the case that you don't get SSP if you're self-employed or in a gig/zero hour job. However, if you had Googled this before going off on one, you would find out that the 2020 budget has already put provisions in place specifically for this:

And millions of self-employed and gig economy workers, who are not entitled to SSP, will be given help through a £500m boost to the benefits system. This will include a temporary halt to the minimum floor in universal credit and quicker payments for employment and support allowance (ESA) claimants.

Source: www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/budget-2020-coronavirus-sick-pay-self-employed-rishi-sunak-speech-treasury-a9394316.html

Everythingpeachy · 12/03/2020 11:12

Apologies for my text tone not sounding as restrained and dull as I actually am. ‘Going off on one’ Grin

Some of us are not entitled to benefits (‘Universal Credit’) despite our low wage, for instance where tax credits overpayment debts are due, our partner’s self employed status, property owners, savings account status, etc.

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PawPawNoodle · 12/03/2020 11:19

The minimum income has been removed temporarily, which means that both you and your partner should be eligible for support should you not be able to work due to self-isolation.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 12/03/2020 11:20

Some of us are not entitled to benefits (‘Universal Credit’) despite our low wage, for instance where tax credits overpayment debts are due, our partner’s self employed status, property owners, savings account status, etc.

But if you have resources, then surely it is right that you shouldn't be expecting the state to provide financial support? Isn't that how things should be? Am I misunderstanding?

Itsashame · 12/03/2020 11:24

You are wrong when you say that you have to be employed for 12 months to get ssp, not the case at all

hellsbells99 · 12/03/2020 11:24

you don't need to have been in a job for 12 months to get SSP

Itsashame · 12/03/2020 11:26

Also minimum earnings of £118 haven’t been removed due to coronavirus. What will happen is that it will be paid from day 1 not day 4

SinkGirl · 12/03/2020 11:37

But if you have resources, then surely it is right that you shouldn't be expecting the state to provide financial support? Isn't that how things should be? Am I misunderstanding?

Only one of the things mentioned in that list (savings) mean that the person “has resources”. Owing back tax credits overpayments, owning a house, both being self employed does not mean you have access to resources.

If you do own a house and have a mortgage it’s worth contacting your provider to ask about a payment holiday. I imagine there are going to be a lot of people asking in the coming months.

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