Sex and Coronavirus

[MysticMeghan]

Believe it or not, I tried to post this on a FB site where people are talking about Coronavirus. They seem quite happy to allow people to post unfounded internet myth and scare stories (i.e. people making YouTube videos about how the world is going to end, etc.), as well as loads of people saying that they think they have the virus because they have a sniffle and being upset when they call 111 to demand a test and get short shrift. But the FB admins wouldn't let me have an opinion because that opinion was about sex and people would rather not think about that.

I have a teenager at University, so it's not like I don't know what is happening. People (and not just students, because we have stories of infidelity wrecking lives and families on MN every single day) routinely pick up dates on tinder or find prostitutes or random people in nightclubs and quite happily have sex and share all sorts of bodily fluids with people whose names they don't even know. We live in an age of self entitlement where people have been brought up to think that self gratification is some kind of human right.

I'm not trying to make judgements here but merely point out that a lot of the people I am referring to above may already be married or in relationships and having gotten jiggy with a complete stranger quite frequently go home and have sex with their partner and think nothing of it. But as the saying goes, when you sleep with someone you sleep with everyone they have ever slept with and particularly if they slept with a load of other people quite recently, if even one of those has Coronavirus then its a fair bet that Mr or Mrs Unfaithful is going to get it too.

My point is that you can have the cleanest house in the world, never go out, wash everything in bleach and wear facemasks, but you could be letting this virus into your home and your body without ever realising, because someone else just wanted a bit of fun and no-one in your town has it, so what's the harm.

Ok, so no-one in their right mind is going to have sex with someone who is obviously feverish and coughing, but what if they haven't exhibited symptoms yet? Or don't know?

Has no-one considered that this might be a great way for the virus to propagate quite happily and no amount of hand sanitiser or hand washing is going to help?

Just saying, because let's face it the BBC is never going to run a story on this one.

The difference is that what they are bringing home now is a little bit more intimidating and dangerous than just a common cold. Yes, yes, we all heard stories of unfaithful partners giving their spouses STDs. But we have antibiotics for that.

And there we have it.

No, we don't.

Herpes and HIV are incurable. Multiple strains of HPV cause cervical and throat cancer. Syphilis is only easily treatable with antibiotics in the early stages, and can be passed on by pregnant women to their babies. The babies can be born with disabilities or dead. The state of being dead can not be treated with antibiotics.

Chlamydia and gonorrhea, if not treated early enough, can cause infertility in both men and women. Oh, and then let's talk about antibiotic resistance.

Yep, we have antibiotic resistant STIs, due to people's total fucking irresponsibility. The days when people could just take a couple of tablets for any of them may be numbered.

www.gov.uk/government/news/two-cases-of-resistant-gonorrhoea-diagnosed-in-the-uk

What a odd thread , and why would you think that .
I could catch corona off a colleague but I'm not having sex with one of them .
I just find it odd if your worried about your dc at university being promiscuous then corona is the very least there are many sexual diseases.

No more kissing.... Italy is up shit creek because of that...

If there’s a housebound member of the household, they’ll unfortunately be at just as much risk of catching Coronavirus from other household members independent of infidelity. You could unknowingly catch it from sitting next to someone on the train as it’s fairly contagious.

But what if your partner isn't so choosy?

Well if that's the case, the Coronavirus is the least of your problems.

OP are you worried your partner is being unfaithful?

What spurious, goady nonsense.

This is bonkers.
You could catch coronavirus from the person in the queue in Asda. Or on the train. Or one of the millions of ways that people come into contact with random people. Yes, theoretically that can include sexual contact, but what point are you making?
And not that it's really relevant, but quite a lot of escorts do kiss.

If scottishmummy we're still here, she'd sum up this thread in her inimitable way - "trust nae fucker".

I think that's the gist of OP's message.

Interestingly, the Guardian is also concerned with this important topic

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2020/mar/11/hands-off-can-orgies-survive-in-the-age-of-coronavirus

Riiiight....

You can strop @MysticMeghan but actually my post wasn't meant to be amusing. The point is any contact with anyone can give you corona virus is the people are around you are infected. If you get it, it doesn't mean your husband is screwing around. It's airborne. You can catch it from your dentist, your batista, your neighbour. It doesn't mean anyone is having sex with anyone else

Was there a point to this or was it just a case of stating the bleeding obvious? If you don't know your partner is sleeping around, how are you going to know they might infect you? Is this post aimed at getting people to refuse entry to their homes to all people who may be sexually active? That could be an interesting conversation.

@PotholeParadise
You're not the only one is often amazed about the lack of knowing anything about personal sexual health. I started a thread last year during HIV/AIDS week about testing. Maybe I worded it wrongly lol, but the number of people who were offended at the mere suggestion of not testing because well, I don't sleep around and only sleep with someone in a committed relationship.

And seeing as the op mentioned prostitutes, the omg, he slept with a prostitute do you realise how many diseases you have caught.
Vs OMG he has a mistress. LTB etc, and the occasional lone voice saying get checked out, because unlike your average prostitute the bit on the side might not be as on ball protection wise as the 'pro'.

And don't even get me started with oils and condoms 🤣

Is this post aimed at getting people to refuse entry to their homes to all people who may be sexually active? That could be an interesting conversation.

That is an interesting conversation.
My younger teen would love it, home alone whilst I get made what homeless? 🤣

But its a bit eww/weird that if my older ones were still living here, some of them might also need to be kicked out.

Did anyone mention it can be passed on from children? How would my ocd protect me then? Cannot even guarantee they won't come home with nits, never mind anything else.

Students have been having lots of sex as long as the world has been round.

Besides, a snog is a more likely means of transmission.

OP has it not occurred to you that most people are in transmittable contact with hundreds of people every day - and therefore are far more likely to catch it that way that from a cheating spouse...

Don’t you think the risk of just picking it up from a stranger sneezing in your proximity is a bit worse than the possibility your partner is cheating? I guarantee that illicit affairs are not a major cause of infection here. And in any event, for most people the fact of their partner cheating on them would be much, much worse than having to put up with a couple of weeks of Coronavirus.

I think you'll find that there are viruses that have developed to be purely transmitted by sex. And that doesn't stop people spreading them. I think you are far more likely to catch corona in a social setting or from a family member you are in close contact with than because of some sleeping around.

You could have made your point with a lot less judgement OP. You talk about personal attacks but you just made one, albeit a general one.

ffs exactly - just me and 20 year old DS at home. I don't think he's having sex with anyone (he's either at work or at home with me, moaning about not having a girlfriend) but I can't be sure. Although I am definitely safe for him to live with, sex is a distant memory haha

ffswhatnext

It's always "people like me don't get STIs" when someone raises the idea. Well, actually, they do. Chlamydia doesn't care about whether you eat sun-dried tomatoes, or how many bedrooms your house has. You just need to shag someone who shagged someone with it.

Sometimes I think we need to bring back those terrifying 80s HIV ads. I'd be totally up for an information campaign that you shouldn't be using oil-based lubricant with condoms, too!

pReP has made things worse as well.
Oh it's ok I can fuck around now and not bother using a condom at all. Yea but what about everything else? Errmm.

People should be taking more notice of this rather than catching coronavirus. This causes a hell of a more risk as there are people out there who are clueless about their own sexual safety never mind of the person they are shagging. Chances are they are included in figures about those undiagnosed.

It's mindboggling how much the world has changed with my own lifetime. I remember what a huge event it was when Princess Diana publicly touched people with AIDS and now we have young people who just don't worry about catching HIV.

I was so happy about the newest generations of antivirals and what they meant for quality of life for those already infected, especially those in relationships with HIV-negative partners. I still am. But there's no need for people to become blasé about HIV transmission, especially as it's not the only thing out there!