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DP's workplace docking annual leave for self-isolation

18 replies

SeasonallySnowyPeasant · 10/03/2020 15:28

DP's workplace has just come out with their genius scheme for minimising Coronavirus spread. If someone travels (at all) and then needs to self-isolate, the 10 working days will be docked from their annual leave.

Can they do that?!

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PickAChew · 10/03/2020 15:31

If he is in a union, he should probably contact them, particularly if he's had to travel for work.

SomeoneElseEntirelyNow · 10/03/2020 15:32

Legally probably yes, but it's really fucking stupid and they'll end up with most people coming in anyway.

HasaDigaEebowai · 10/03/2020 15:33

They can if the person has knowingly travelled to an area which might then mean they have to self isolate then yes if they have said they will in advance. Or they could even stop the leave ie withdraw permission.

If someone has the certificate from PHE they would probably have to then change it to SSP.

People need to stop travelling for leisure.

Comefromaway · 10/03/2020 15:36

My workplace would offer that if someone couldn't manage on SSP.

cologne4711 · 10/03/2020 16:06

I think it might be fair if eg you had booked a trip to Rome at the very last minute and gone against workplace advice.

But if it was already booked and the insurer wouldn't pay for a cancellation they are being unreasonable.

Anyway you could catch it anywhere now.

I suppose as someone said it could be a good option instead of claiming SSP but not sure what you do if you have to self-isolate for longer. For example I could self-isolate then DH could have symptoms too, would it would start the clock again?

Aposterhasnoname · 10/03/2020 16:22

People need to stop travelling for leisure.

Yeah, great idea, let’s totally destroy the travel
industry, put millions around the world out of work and completely destroy the economies of some countries which rely on tourism.

BackInTime · 10/03/2020 16:30

I think if many companies are doing their best to mitigate risks by encouraging WFH and stopping business related travel, then it makes a total mockery of this if staff take risks by continued personal travel to known hotspots.

There has to be some sort of personal responsibility to the business when there is risk of spreading it to colleagues, risk of business having to shut for a period,loss of revenue and possible job losses. Employers cannot carry the can for all of this.

HasaDigaEebowai · 10/03/2020 16:30

Yeah, great idea, let’s totally destroy the travel industry, put millions around the world out of work and completely destroy the economies of some countries which rely on tourism.

PMSL have you actually seen what's happening in the world. We are facing probable world wide recession precisely because people have continued to spread the virus

sprinklemagicinmyhair · 10/03/2020 16:32

Yeah, great idea, let’s totally destroy the travel industry, put millions around the world out of work and completely destroy the economies of some countries which rely on tourism.

You do realise you have used this on a thread where the OP is complaining about their work, their industry., their potential losses.

Are you suggesting that people who work in travel are more important?

MauriceandAlec · 10/03/2020 16:37

We are facing probable world wide recession precisely because people have continued to spread the virus

No, it's due to fluctuation in energy/fuel prices and people fucking panicking.

TeacupDrama · 10/03/2020 16:40

legally any employer can tell you when you are taking your annual leave ( with notice at least twice as long as the period of leave) so technically you need to be told 4 weeks in advance of being forced to take 2 weeks off so if they introduce this policy today it is enforceable by 7th april for 2 weeks but sooner for shorter periods
there is no right to free choice just 28 days ( pro rata) obviously if on annual leave you get full pay not SSP which is well under the minimum wage at about £2.50 a hour if you do 37.5 hours a week
for some people annual leave pay will save financial difficulties that SSP would create so they will be able to pay bills

HasaDigaEebowai · 10/03/2020 16:49

No, it's due to fluctuation in energy/fuel prices and people fucking panicking.

Oh don't be ridiculous. Oil prices are in freefall as a result of coronavirus issues leading to reduced requirement and the russians then refusing to cut production. And the world is closing its borders to protect its citizens. If you want to keep your head in the sand then carry on but don't try to persuade others that everything is normal in the world because it really isn't.

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SeasonallySnowyPeasant · 10/03/2020 16:50

I could understand it if someone decided to travel against FCO advice. But at all? People are then stuck between losing ££££ on travel booked months in advance (because travel insurance won’t pay out if you just decide not to go) or having no annual leave for the rest of the year. It’s hardly designed to ensure compliance and goodwill, is it?

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MauriceandAlec · 10/03/2020 16:54

Oh don't be ridiculous.

I'm not Hmm. Panicking is utterly stupid. People have moved around since the time they could stand up. They've had viruses in their population since before that. Experts have told us this one will be around for a while. Banning travel won't stop that.

If you want to keep your head in the sand then carry on but don't try to persuade others that everything is normal in the world because it really isn't.

The same goes for people panicking and catastrophising Hmm.

peoplepleaser1 · 10/03/2020 17:04

My DH has been told that all existing holiday plans must be reported to the HR director who will then decide if the employee has to self isolate- so not just based on official guidelines.

No one is allowed to book any holiday/ abroad until further notice.

If HR director decides the employee has to isolate they will not be paid.

His field of work is luxury retail, so nothing to do with corona but he's been working 7 days a week as the business owner is trying to push sales before things become really tricky. He's been taking the train to London several times a week to meet customers.

No extra pay or time off has been given and he's been told that if the business has to close or he gets ill he will not get paid.

He's a senior director. We are rolling with it. They are a horrid company but he's well paid (usually).

HasaDigaEebowai · 10/03/2020 17:32

Im not disputing that panic is never going to be productive. I am disputing that this is all a big fuss over nothing as your post implied and is just down to people panicking

Poppydaisies · 10/03/2020 17:59

People need to stop travelling for leisure.

This. We all need to make sacrifices to protect the vulnerable ones in our society.

MauriceandAlec · 10/03/2020 18:05

That's how you construed it, Hasa. I disagree Hmm.

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