What does lockdown mean

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If we go on lockdown for coronavirus in the weeks/months ahead. What happens?

How do we buy food and nappies?
Are you allowed to go for a walk?
What services shut down?

I can't see how it would work. Drs and hospitals, pharmacies, vets, food factories, farms, public services etc would still be functioning.

What about plumbers, electricians etc? People will still have emergencies.

I'm just confused by it all.

We have a holiday cottage booked in norfork next month. Is there a risk we can't go? If so would we get a refund etc?

Just curious how things could go if we follow Italy. Thanks!

The flu vaccine is for the predicted most prevalent strain that season. It doesn't protect you from all flu strains.

The flu kills hundreds of thousands of people on an annual and global basis
Did we go into lockdown then?

I cannot believe the behaviours being exhibited and the level of panic it is quite alarming

He's trying to get the message out that it isn't just a mild flu.

Of course. For some it isn't mild. Death isn't mild.

But for most, it is.

@LittleSweet
Exactly
The strain is often different
Myself my mother and two of my children were vaccinated against flu in 2018 but we all got a different kind and were bedridden for a week
Bit like what would happen with this

The world carried on

Why don’t some of these people who seem feverish with the excitement at all of this volunteer to be infected and get paid £3.5 k to sit in a lab away from the rest of humanity

I don’t think this is mild flu and I’m fed up with people assuming that the elderly and immune compromised can just die and we shrug. I am sick of hearing this.

However I don’t see how a lockdown can help unless people aren’t at supermarkets at all. Or unless everyone wears disposable gloves! I think large social engagements should be cancelled and it wouldn’t surprise me if they close the schools although there will be economic mayhem

@iVampire big love to your mum

I wish I knew how to post a link. The point being, we don't at this time have our hospitals at 200% capacity with patients in respiratory distress, while people with less immediate health concerns are being turned away, or people being left to die with no attempt to resuscitate them.
Remember this is all on top of the usual number of flu deaths, and the NHS is already struggling to cope.
China's cases are reducing, we believe, only because of drastic measures taken.

The numbers of deaths quoted are purely ones who die of the virus itself. The death figures will be much higher when deaths due to other conditions that could have been treated but couldn't be because of the hospitals being full, and/or health workers being too sick, are taken into account.
I think the elderly and sick are considered to be expendable.

Social distancing and no travel minimise spread.
If you are in a town with a number of cases, you pick up the virus but have not yet become sick, and then travel to Norfolk, you could spread the virus to a more vulnerable rural community, where the average age is higher, and healthcare far more sparse.
Keeping travel to absolutely essential journeys only, and keeping distance from other people, shopping once a week or less often if possible, all this helps slow spread, and slowing spread saves both lives and the economy.
If the hospitals can’t cope with a huge influx of patients, then more people will die.
I am taking all the measures I can now, I do not want to be the direct or indirect cause of someone else’s death, or my own, should I become very unwell.
The death rate in Italy is around 1 in 20 so far. They are now getting younger people critically unwell. We are only two weeks behind them, we all need to take this extremely seriously and do what we can, even if it makes life more uncomfortable now.

Those still saying that for most people it is mild, even the cases classed as mild to moderate are getting pnemonia, which is a horrible illness that can swiftly turn life threatening.
Imagine five per cent of your village or town dying. One in twenty of the people you know.
I don’t want to lose much loved friends and family, I don’t want my dds to grow up without a mother, I don’t want families torn apart by this.
People not taking this seriously will cause deaths.

It’s just a mild flu

This misses the point. 1000s of people do die of flu in UK every year. But these are people who have NOT been vaccinated against the current strain of seasonal flu.

Most vulnerable people in UK receive the flu vaccine and are therefore at much lower risk of contracting flu and dying from it.

Since there is no vaccine for COVID 19 all of those vulnerable people will be at risk. And the mortality rate will be high.

Death rate from CV-19 is 10-20 times higher than flu
and a far higher % need hospital and critical care beds

The Chief Medical Officer estimates CV-19 will have a UK death rate of 1% or a bit under
which is lower than globally
but still at least 10x a bad flu year

His "reasonable worst case" is 60-80% of people in the Uk catching it
We must stop CV-19 spreading that widely, hence "social distancing" and other measures

The govt is trying to "spread out and delay" the infection,
to avoid having the NHS struggling to cope with too many admissions at once,
especially to critical care beds

I've tried to stay level headed and not worry. But it is becoming a worry.

Are children getting this?
What the hell are adults meant to do if they get it and have children to care for?

I just wonder what number it has to get to before they start locking things down.

It's an absolute tradgedy for anyone to loose a life. Even if they have health problems. Why do people keep saying it only affects the vunerbale. The vunerbale are people like my 62 year old dad. Only retired this month. Worked his whole life. Worked unknowingly with asbestos years ago and has lung damage. My two year old had pneumonia last year too. He's ok as far as I know. But its not something I want to find out.

I'm starting to feel worried. It's not even clear what the breathing difficulties are. Is it like an awful chest infection. Or is it just wheezy. Do some people not get breathing problems? I feel they never cover these things enough so people know what it's like.

We will never know the truth but if this has come from Chinese people eating contaminated animals it seems to unfair for the rest of us to pay the price.

They were stupid though to let people continue to travel there. Too little too late as always.

OP, take a look on the preppers thread. Some calm yet useful ideas

Im sorry if answered this already, do you or anyone know what they plan to do with the inmates? Without the proper supplies being delevered how would survive

@tiredanddangerous
Please wake up. Lockdown does work. Our govt is appealling to our better nature to do social distancing voluntarily. Clearly not working. Whilever there are people who think it might be ok to go away to a holday cottage we are doomed. The very peopl who think it is mild flu are taking it from London to Cornwall and Wales, everyonoe else to Cumbria, the Highlands and Lincolnshire. It is travel that is devastating this country. Please STAY AT HOME. If we cant knock it down a bit the NHS will not cope. Please take a bit of time to look at Italy and Spain. If we locked down now there would be no perceived benefit for 3 weeks. As we are piddling about carrying on as normal ish It is no surprise our escalation rate is faster that Italy was a the same point. Pleas OP you seem very ill informed on this subject. Just because you CAN does not mean you should

You really think it's pointless, wait until the entire population of Earth is on lockdown. Life will never be the same after the effects of this virus!

The whole world will be following Italy!