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Are they not testing anybody who has not been abroad?

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SaltLampBae · 07/03/2020 22:47

My 4yo has developed a nasty cough these past couple of days. She's never had a cough without other cold symptoms (runny nose etc), but I don't really think she's got coronavirus - obviously the cases are still v rare. But I was just curious so had a little google and came across 111s coronavirus quiz.

It asked if she had any of the symptoms, I said yes. It asked if she'd been to various countries, or if she had knowingly come into contact with anybody with coronavirus. I said no.

It said no need to call 111, and linked me to a page about treating a cough.

This is fine with me - I wouldn't call 111 for a cough obviously, she's fine. But it got me thinking. Are they really still only testing people who have been abroad, or in contact with somebody who has been diagnosed?

It's just a bit concerning isn't it, because kids seem to get v mild symptoms, but AFAIK they still spread it the same. Surely there could be lots of kids with a bit of a cough rocking up to school next week and spreading it throughout their class, and their classmates families?

Is it not pretty likely there are loads more cases than diagnosed, because they're only treating a v specific subset of people? From what I've read, most other countries with relatively good containment procedures are testing much more widely.

This is not a criticism of the NHS btw. The thing I'm most concerned about in all of this is how we absolutely do not have the resources to cope with thousands of extra patients in ICU beds. My family and I are not at much particular risk, but just for society in general - it's scary. I don't want them wasting their time on my kid's cough. Just wondered what everyone else thought about this issue in general - maybe I'm missing something.

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FlashesOfRage · 07/03/2020 22:50

As you’ve said yourself. We just don’t have unlimited resources.

If you can only run a certain number of tests per day (there’s a backlog already) then you obviously prioritise people where there is a reason for suspicion.

SaltLampBae · 07/03/2020 23:03

Yeah, I guess. I just think that if they want to flatten spread (which absolutely needs to be top priority, however much Boris thinks the NHS can cope - they can't), they should be chucking a ton of money at it, like South Korea - set up drive through testing, or expand the number of labs who can do the testing. As soon as it starts spreading through schools, surely we've lost the battle.

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MGMidget · 08/03/2020 00:32

DH has had bad cough for a week, shortness of breath, low lung capacity, shallow breathing, not getting better, if anything getting worse, and not responding to antibiotics so may be viral.. we had the same response from 111. Classified him as having an ordinary cough. and wouldn’t test for coronavirus as didn’t meet the criteria of having travelled abroad to affected area or been in contact with a known case of Coronavirus. Offered him appointment at the local GP. We’d been concerned not to have him rock up at the GP with suspect symptoms but 111 not concerned. I guess they are taking a narrow view because they don’t have the resources to test widely at the moment.

TangoWhisky · 08/03/2020 00:34

Midget... If his getting worse, Please seek help

SaucySuester · 08/03/2020 00:39

I had viral pneumonia when I was a child, horrible experience, get your kid to the docs.

GPwife2411 · 08/03/2020 00:49

This system is why community transmission is both occurring and doing so under the radar. I'm not saying that either of your family members has CV but clearly a proportion of people who haven't travelled / had contact with a case will indeed have it.

Please seek urgent help if you have any concerns about a family member, even if you get a knock back from 111 re: CV. For what it's worth, the many GPs I know think that this is awful and will lead to a rapid escalation in numbers. I have to hope they're being unduly pessimistic :(

Scbchl · 08/03/2020 00:51

It's also a good way for them to pretend it's not as bad as it is and that there is less cases, if they only test a small amount then they wont get the true figures of his much its spending in the community.

namechange20squillion · 08/03/2020 01:35

Nope they are not. I got a nasty flu and fever, then felt better, developed a nasty cough and then just couldn't breathe, I'm on antibiotics and high dose steroids - nothing seems to be shifting this chest pain, shortness of breath, cough. I can barely walk - lying awake still as the steroids are keeping me up.

The doc does double check each visit have I been abroad - my answer is no, but I have travelled all over the UK...I haven't a clue who I have or have not have come into contact with.

It probably is just a nasty virus, but this has floored me, and I'm surprised to have not have been tested.

TheLovleyChebbyMcGee · 08/03/2020 06:46

My local hospital is screening all ITU patients for it, and also all respitory patients just in case. It's not widely advertised that they are doing this, but at this time of year it's just not possible to screen every single person who has symptoms, it's not just the money, it's the time and resources it takes to perform these tests.

It's also flu season so labs are under so much strain as it is!

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