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To wonder what will happen if exams are impacted by Corona

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B1gbluehouse · 03/03/2020 06:36

Starting to think they aren’t going to want halls filled with 100s of kids if it spreads more.

What will happen to GCSE and A level students if they can’t take their exams?

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Piggywaspushed · 07/03/2020 15:48

Obviously, the exam boards MUST be discussing this but from my end it feels like the whole of education just has its fingers in its ears going lalalalalalalala.

Thisismytimetoshine · 07/03/2020 15:50

What’s new, Piggy?!

Piggywaspushed · 07/03/2020 15:55

Indeed; no idea why I am surprised!!

noblegiraffe · 07/03/2020 15:56

It’s like the school closures thing. It is on the cards if things get worse and people are talking about online learning, but as far as I can see, no one is seriously looking into practicalities.

PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 07/03/2020 16:38

I'm in the ME - we are on standby to shut down, basically, now Dubai has.

The deal will be online task setting & feedback. NOT videoing ourselves - that's been explicitly ruled out. Our school parents would be recording us & picking our lessons to pieces! Grin

Invigilation not an issue if exams go ahead - we do it anyway. Not your own subject. There isn't a pool of English speaking non-teachers to recruit from locally, so teachers it has to be.

Designerenvy · 07/03/2020 16:45

I have a DC doing junior cert ( Irelands equivalent to GCSE, I think ).
I'm not sure what will happen here, havent heard a word about it .
I would worry for the kids doing leaving cert though ( equivalent to A levels ? ....I might have them.mixed up though ) , as their college places etc depends on them doing these exams .

Aragog · 07/03/2020 17:47

We know what could happen so schools should be preparing for this already.

In my LEA, based on our headteacher's meeting with other heads and the education team at the authority most schools are no where near prepared. They are only just looking at getting some form of team together to even start prepping incase schools have to close.

In China they had none, or very minimal, prep time. This is why our ex colleagues been chatting to us - so we can get sorted. However, from speaking to other schools locally our head teacher knows that most schools haven't yet done anything and many aren't even sure where to start, especially primaries which don't have online learning platforms in place like a lot of secondaries do.

Most people in the UK have computers as well so wouldn't have to use phone

I dont think this is the case at all. Most people seem to just use tablets and phones these days. Most of the young children I teach have no computers and laptops in the homes, their parents just use tablets and phones. Their first computing lesson at school is the first time they use a computer - they all touch the screens and few know how to use a keyboard or mouse.

The only laptop a lot of teachers use at home is their school one, must of which don't take them home every evening. At our school wee are trying to get them into the habit of doing so at present and we are getting the It tech (who is only in once a week for a couple of hours) to make sure the laptops can all access the hard disk storage from ousted of the school building. Plus getting them to upload key documents to some form of cloud storage too.

The key is finding time to set the systems up and getting staff trained up to do things. Its also making sure that parents and children might be able to use them on a range of devices, including phones only. But trying to fit that into an already packed curriculum isn't easy. There is little let up time and not much funding to take people off timetable to learn how to use new systems. Its also a balance between planning for something that might never actually need to be used or put in place, and getting people user ready for if it does suddenly happen.

cologne4711 · 07/03/2020 17:58

Obviously, the exam boards MUST be discussing this but from my end it feels like the whole of education just has its fingers in its ears going lalalalalalalala

Off topic but ditto London and Brighton marathons, especially the Brighton marathon who've offered places to those who couldn't do Paris, Barcelona or Rome. Why do they think they'll be going ahead?

Universities, sixth form colleges and exam boards need to get their heads together fast.

AuntieStella · 07/03/2020 21:12

They haven't decided about the marathons yet

From the runners pov it would probably be ok. But the crowds watching in London are huge - and encouraged to use public transport. But wouid it actually be worse than an ordinary working day in the capital?

cologne4711 · 08/03/2020 07:55

Just see this article in today's Sunday Times:

Exam boards are drawing up plans to delay GCSEs and A-levels amid predictions that the coronavirus epidemic will be at its height as the exam season starts, forcing mass closures of schools.

The boards, working with the exam regulator, Ofqual, are planning “for a range of scenarios”. One is understood to involve looking at predictions of the rise in cases and considering alternative exam dates. A decision is expected shortly. GCSEs and A-level exams are due to start on May 11 and finish in mid-June.

In an attempt to reassure teenagers, Ofqual is planning to waive rules to help those who miss some exams because they fall ill or their school is closed. Any who underperform because of the virus will be awarded “special consideration” grades, in the widest application to date of the concessions, which were applied to pupils caught up in the Grenfell fire disaster.

Those unable to take an exam will be graded based on earlier papers. For candidates who sit the paper but whose performance is affected because they are ill, marks can be adjusted.

“We recognise that students, parents, schools and colleges will be concerned about the possible impact of coronavirus on the 2020 summer exam series,” the exam regulator said this weekend. “Our advice is to continue to prepare for exams as normal . . . Our overriding priorities are fairness and keeping disruption to a minimum.”

At least 40 schools with suspected victims have closed in recent weeks, despite official instructions to the contrary. Head teachers have described the situation as “an unprecedented challenge” and reported that a growing number of parents are keeping children out of school.

Geoff Barton, general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL), the moderate teachers’ union, has called for school league tables, which record exam results and attendance figures, to be suspended.

He said anxiety levels were high, with some parents keeping children at home. Asthmatic children and those with diabetes or receiving treatment for illnesses such as cancer are thought to be particularly vulnerable.

On Friday the education secretary, Gavin Williamson, will give a speech to the ASCL. He is expected to praise head teachers for staying calm and doing everything they can to help children revise and keep exams on track.

“The main focus for heads is how do we keep young people calm and stop them thinking the exams are not going to happen,” said Barton. “The level of anxiety among children is significant. They know their A-level grades are needed for university. We want to try to give them a chance to sit these exams as normal. It seems dystopian but we may need to bus children between centres if some schools are closed. In primary schools if someone sneezes, children are asking can they move to sit by someone else. Parents are keeping their children at home.”

Private schools are training teachers and pupils on software so that they can offer “e-lessons” and revision sessions online if pupils have to stay at home, though many children do not have their own laptops.

Some university heads argue that while GCSEs could be moved to September relatively easily, A-levels are too important to delay.

Sir Anthony Seldon, vice-chancellor of Buckingham University and a former master of Wellington College, said: “Nothing matters more than safety, but everything must be done to try to make certain that A-level exams can take place. So much hinges on A-level results.

“If there has to be slippage, would it be so bad if GCSEs were held in September? Schools and colleges will still take young people into sixth forms. Also, the numbers taking A-levels is much smaller than GCSEs, so the safety element would be less high.”

Delays to the issuing of the A-level results in August would cause turmoil for sixth formers and universities. Institutions could have to delay the start of the academic year or rely more heavily on applicants’ GCSE results and other information in applications to allocate places.

Nick Hillman, director of the Higher Education Policy Institute, warned that any disruption could have lasting consequences. “My biggest concern would be if there were one group of young people whose education was severely disrupted by a pandemic to the extent that they are unable to take a full suite of qualifications,” he said. “It will be hard for them to explain that on their CVs for decades to come.”

Skyejuly · 08/03/2020 08:00

My year 11 son is getting anxious. He has autism and is struggling with changes.

Piggywaspushed · 08/03/2020 08:23

I cannot be the only teacher whose school don't even seem to have discussed this kind of thing!

On another thread, a couple of private school teachers are sharing their school's 'plans'.

I also cannot be the only teacher who is mildly panicking because they teach an exam subject that is very very tricky to teach from home.

Piggywaspushed · 08/03/2020 08:25

I love the way the ST still has to have a dig at unions by using the word 'moderate' for ASCL , as if there is a barmy union somewhere planning something weird! The key thing is that ASCL is a leaders' union, not whether it is moderate or not!

catspyjamas123 · 08/03/2020 08:31

All of this is why a final “do or die” exam is a bad idea. Coronavirus aside, kids who become ill at exam time always lose out. GCSE students have done 12 school years and have a track record. Use that!

Drivemybluecar · 08/03/2020 08:35

So. They would take the kids on at college and sixth form and so their exams in September.

What if they don’t make the grades required to get onto that course after. What are they going to do ... kick them off the course ???? What nonsense is that.

UntamedWisteria · 08/03/2020 08:38

DS's school has already said they are looking at ways of being able to teach remotely (presumably via computer - Skype or Zoom).

DS has A Levels this summer. At least they are all affected equally.

itsgettingweird · 08/03/2020 08:41

I'm not sure predicted grades are fairer.

In all but English my ds smashed his predicted grades by 1-3 marks and is predicted now to do even better in final exams.

B1gbluehouse · 08/03/2020 08:42

And not only that, what about the heavy weight Alevels that need every bit of time to cover the course. Sitting GCSEs in Sep, then marking, then doing course allocation will take a huge amount of time.

And what about those switching schools, do they sit them in their old school or new?

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BackInTime · 08/03/2020 08:48

Most people in the UK have computers as well so wouldn't have to use phone

We do have a laptop and desktop but if DH and I are forced to work from home we will probably need these for work so it would be difficult to manage if both DC also need access to these devices

BackInTime · 08/03/2020 08:53

There are also subjects that have practical and coursework elements that are not yet completed - DT, Textiles, PE, Dance for example. In some cases students need access to school facilities, teacher moderation and possibly need to work with others (PE & Dance) to do their practical work. It is just not feasible to complete some of the work for these subjects at home.

Piggywaspushed · 08/03/2020 09:10

My subject being taught from home would involve students having access to films : this requirement would massively disadvantage the less affluent and those without proper PC access. It also has coursework. So, definitely the exam boards would have to address this. As it goes , the NEA is virtually finished but requires digital uploading. I cannot imagine all centres have finished it though.

Piggywaspushed · 08/03/2020 09:12

Absolutely true cats !

FAQs · 08/03/2020 10:22

I hope they don’t use mock results, my daughter failed all hers mainly because she has been mentally really unwell and school have been good at helping she is now back on track for 6 - 8s it’ll be a disaster for her.

B1gbluehouse · 08/03/2020 10:27

FAQs we are in exactly the same position. There are so many variables with mocks anyway.

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Aragog · 08/03/2020 10:32

Most people in the UK have computers as well so wouldn't have to use phone

I don't think this is the case any more, and unceasingly so. Lots of people I know don't have computers or laptops.
Of the families I teach many homes don't, they only have tablets and phones, and that's is a relatively well off area. Some only have work laptops they bring from home from work but can't be used by other family members or for non work activities.

Also of those that do they use a range - windows based, apple ones, chrome books, etc. Exam boards aren't always great at making versions of their software for none windows machines. For example some exam boards have to insist their markers have windows machines because there marking software won't run on anything else.

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