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To be delighted by reports the pro Palestinian activists / prisoners have ended their hunger strikes

53 replies

BewaretheIckabog · 14/01/2026 21:45

Whatever your views are politically I believe this is good.

I appreciate many support their cause but really what effect would young people starving themselves in the UK have on the Israeli government, Hamas or the end to suffering in Gaza?

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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 09:30

SharonEllis · 15/01/2026 06:17

Its not that unusual at the moment. There is a huge courts backlog and the average wait is about a year (average means some will be more, some less). Those on remand for serious offences are typically treated more harshly.

Their offense was not nearly as serious as Lucy Letby- charged as the most prolific serial killer of babies in UK history.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 09:32

SharonEllis · 14/01/2026 23:15

What a sick suggestion that this situation bears any resemblance to Iran where completely innocent people are imprisoned without charge, tortured, murdered, and at the moment being gunned down in the streets.

That would be sick if I had made such a comparison. I did not, I said that Iran and China regularly have political prisoners. This is true.

It wasn’t a comparison to extrajudicial torture and street executions of peaceful protesters.

SharonEllis · 16/01/2026 09:33

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 09:30

Their offense was not nearly as serious as Lucy Letby- charged as the most prolific serial killer of babies in UK history.

No idea what Lucy Letby has to do with it.

QuestioningThisNow · 16/01/2026 09:36

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 09:25

But not for political reasons. Usually it is because of complex cases where expert witnesses are needed to examine evidence.

"All of them have been objecting to the time on remand ahead of trials, which are up to a year away due to the unprecedented court backlogs."

"During the protest the group had made five demands including that the UK government lifts the ban on Palestine Action, closes down an Israeli-owned defence firm and addresses complaints about their prison conditions and treatment."

"Hunger strikes are deemed to be part of the right to protest under human rights law, which means the state no longer has any power to forcibly feed a prisoner, unless doctors conclude they lack the mental capacity to understand the consequences of their actions.

If a prisoner understands the risk that they may die and has made their wishes clear, doctors will not give them food, even if it would save their life."

"Both Muraisi and Ahmed were arrested in November 2024 as part of the so-called “Filton 24,” a group of Palestine Action-linked activists accused of breaking into and vandalizing a UK research and development site near Filton, west of London, belonging to Elbit Systems, Israel’s largest weapons manufacturer. The activist group aims to disrupt the operations of weapons manufacturers connected to the Israeli government.

Prosecutors allege the Filton incident caused an estimated £1 million ($1.3 million) in damage. Muraisi and Ahmed have been charged with burglary, criminal damage, and conspiracy. They deny the charges and are awaiting trial"

More than a little bit of vandalism. Anyway, they ended their hunger strike and now will have their trials on various charges.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 09:37

1dayatatime · 15/01/2026 00:00

Political prisoners? They were part of the group that attacked a police woman on the ground with a sledgehammer breaking her back.

Yes I'm glad that they stopped their hunger strike but they are not political prisoners but simply violent thugs.

No
The hunger strikers are: Qesser Zuhrah (20), Amu Gib (30), Heba Muraisi (31), Teuta Hoxha (29), Kamran Ahmed (28), Lewie Chiaramello (22), Jon Cink (24, ended after 41 days), and Muhammad Umer Khalid (22, ended for health reasons).

Samuel Corner is not among them. He is too busy standing trial for allegedly shattering a police officer’s spine.

The hunger strikers were not present at the scene when Evans was struck; they were arrested in subsequent police raids three months later.

You are doing guilt by association. The only link between them and Samuel Corner - whose trial hasn’t been mysteriously delayed for 2yrs- is that they are all members of Palestine Action.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 09:38

SharonEllis · 16/01/2026 09:33

No idea what Lucy Letby has to do with it.

Ask HighStreetOtter who said to me:
Many, many people spend years on remand waiting for trial. Were we saying Lucy Letby should have been let out before her trial?

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 09:41

QuestioningThisNow · 16/01/2026 09:36

"All of them have been objecting to the time on remand ahead of trials, which are up to a year away due to the unprecedented court backlogs."

"During the protest the group had made five demands including that the UK government lifts the ban on Palestine Action, closes down an Israeli-owned defence firm and addresses complaints about their prison conditions and treatment."

"Hunger strikes are deemed to be part of the right to protest under human rights law, which means the state no longer has any power to forcibly feed a prisoner, unless doctors conclude they lack the mental capacity to understand the consequences of their actions.

If a prisoner understands the risk that they may die and has made their wishes clear, doctors will not give them food, even if it would save their life."

"Both Muraisi and Ahmed were arrested in November 2024 as part of the so-called “Filton 24,” a group of Palestine Action-linked activists accused of breaking into and vandalizing a UK research and development site near Filton, west of London, belonging to Elbit Systems, Israel’s largest weapons manufacturer. The activist group aims to disrupt the operations of weapons manufacturers connected to the Israeli government.

Prosecutors allege the Filton incident caused an estimated £1 million ($1.3 million) in damage. Muraisi and Ahmed have been charged with burglary, criminal damage, and conspiracy. They deny the charges and are awaiting trial"

More than a little bit of vandalism. Anyway, they ended their hunger strike and now will have their trials on various charges.

Unreasonably delayed trials of members that were not even on the scene of the break in. They were arrested 3 months later.

inamarina · 16/01/2026 09:43

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 09:27

Lucy Letby was granted bail. She was not kept on remand while waiting for her trial.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lucy-letby-laughs-dances-wedding-084037473.html?

Edited

Lucy Letby was granted bail during the police investigation but not once she was charged. She was on remand for about 33 months.

SharonEllis · 16/01/2026 09:46

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 09:38

Ask HighStreetOtter who said to me:
Many, many people spend years on remand waiting for trial. Were we saying Lucy Letby should have been let out before her trial?

So address your comments to her, not me? Bail is granted not just on the seriousness of the offence but risk of reoffending, flight risk, communications with other offenders etc.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 09:49

SharonEllis · 16/01/2026 09:46

So address your comments to her, not me? Bail is granted not just on the seriousness of the offence but risk of reoffending, flight risk, communications with other offenders etc.

I did. I just assumed you were reading the whole thread as it isn’t that long.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 09:53

inamarina · 16/01/2026 09:43

Lucy Letby was granted bail during the police investigation but not once she was charged. She was on remand for about 33 months.

Ok. So she was initially bailed, and then on remand while waiting for multiple trials for multiple murders.

The hunger striking prisoners never got bail and the case is merely that they were co-conspirators of six other Palestine Action activists who went on trial at Woolwich Crown Court on 17 Nov 2025, accused of attacking an Elbit Systems facility in Filton, Bristol, on 6 August 2024. Among the defendants stands Samuel Corner, 23, charged not only with aggravated burglary, criminal damage, and violent disorder, but with causing grievous bodily harm with intent.

The hunger strikers were caught up in raids of Palestine Action members later on.

1dayatatime · 16/01/2026 10:07

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 09:37

No
The hunger strikers are: Qesser Zuhrah (20), Amu Gib (30), Heba Muraisi (31), Teuta Hoxha (29), Kamran Ahmed (28), Lewie Chiaramello (22), Jon Cink (24, ended after 41 days), and Muhammad Umer Khalid (22, ended for health reasons).

Samuel Corner is not among them. He is too busy standing trial for allegedly shattering a police officer’s spine.

The hunger strikers were not present at the scene when Evans was struck; they were arrested in subsequent police raids three months later.

You are doing guilt by association. The only link between them and Samuel Corner - whose trial hasn’t been mysteriously delayed for 2yrs- is that they are all members of Palestine Action.

The association is that they are all members of a proscribed terrorist organisation. It would be like arresting a member of say Al Qaeda that went on a terrorist attack providing support in destroying say a power station but didn't actually kill anyone.

orangewasp · 16/01/2026 10:08

I'm glad they've ended it, of course I don't want to see anyone taking their own lives.

But they have committed crimes and need to wait their turn for trial, admittedly in a very backlogged system, like everyone else is at the moment.

QuestioningThisNow · 16/01/2026 10:12

1dayatatime · 16/01/2026 10:07

The association is that they are all members of a proscribed terrorist organisation. It would be like arresting a member of say Al Qaeda that went on a terrorist attack providing support in destroying say a power station but didn't actually kill anyone.

Indeed.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 10:26

1dayatatime · 16/01/2026 10:07

The association is that they are all members of a proscribed terrorist organisation. It would be like arresting a member of say Al Qaeda that went on a terrorist attack providing support in destroying say a power station but didn't actually kill anyone.

Except that the incident in question, the attack on an Elbit Systems facility in Filton, Bristol, was on 6 August 2024.

This was almost a year before Palestine Action was proscribed on 5 July 2025 and added to the list of terrorist organisations.

Again, the hunger strikers were not present at the Elbit systems attack and everyone in Palestine Action at that time and the time of their arrest were not members of a proscribed terrorist group, but a legitimate protest group.

Which is why there are no terrorism charges and this cannot be compared to a terror attack by Al Qaeda.

Interestingly, the Syrian branch of Al Qaeda, HTS was just removed from the proscribed terrorist list this past October. I suppose as a reward for overthrowing the Assad regime.

SharonEllis · 16/01/2026 10:31

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 10:26

Except that the incident in question, the attack on an Elbit Systems facility in Filton, Bristol, was on 6 August 2024.

This was almost a year before Palestine Action was proscribed on 5 July 2025 and added to the list of terrorist organisations.

Again, the hunger strikers were not present at the Elbit systems attack and everyone in Palestine Action at that time and the time of their arrest were not members of a proscribed terrorist group, but a legitimate protest group.

Which is why there are no terrorism charges and this cannot be compared to a terror attack by Al Qaeda.

Interestingly, the Syrian branch of Al Qaeda, HTS was just removed from the proscribed terrorist list this past October. I suppose as a reward for overthrowing the Assad regime.

And the reason why PA was proscribed was precisely because of these sorts of actions - going back to the issue of bail which is based on risk.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 10:36

SharonEllis · 16/01/2026 10:31

And the reason why PA was proscribed was precisely because of these sorts of actions - going back to the issue of bail which is based on risk.

What is the risk of a member of a (in August 2024) legitimate protest group who decided not to join in on the vandalism attack on Elbit systems of “reoffending”? It’s zero because they did not participate, or “offend” in the first place.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 10:46

In addition, the proscription of Palestine Action is being questioned by UK Constitutional Law experts:

https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2026/01/12/paul-oconnell-anticipatory-repression-and-the-proscription-of-palestine-action/

“The proscription of Palestine Action in July 2025 represents more than an aggressive application of counter-terrorism law. It reveals a broader, qualitative shift in the British state’s approach to political dissent—one best understood, I argue, through the concept of ‘anticipatory repression’.”

and

”The decision to proscribe Palestine Action has attracted widespread criticism. The Independent Commission on UK Counter-Terrorism Law, chaired by former Lord Chief Justice Sir Declan Morgan KC and including former Attorney General Dominic Grieve and Richard Barrett, former Global Counter-Terrorism Director of MI6, concluded that the terrorism definition is ‘too broad’ and that the property-damage threshold should apply only where conduct ‘creates a serious risk to life, national security, or public safety’. The report further noted that the ‘proscription of Palestine Action highlights several of the features of and concerns about the power to proscribe’. UN human rights experts have described the ban as a ‘disturbing misuse’ of terrorism powers against protest activity. Michael O’Flaherty, Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights, wrote to the Home Secretary expressing grave concerns about the use of anti-terrorism laws against peaceful protesters and the danger of imposing excessive limits on the rights to free speech and protest. When former Lord Chief Justices, senior intelligence officials, and critical legal scholars converge on the same concern, and international human rights bodies issue warnings, it is clear the state has crossed a fundamental line.”….

“This is anticipatory repression: the pre-emptive engineering of legal and institutional frameworks designed to prevent the crystallisation of future political challenges before they can meaningfully threaten the existing order. It is not simply reactive—responding to disorder after it occurs—but pre-emptive, targeting the foreseeable political consequences of protest rather than merely its immediate disruption. Anticipatory repression rests on a tacit recognition that the structural conditions generating protest will persist, and that those conditions cannot or will not be addressed at their roots. Rather than eliminating the causes of dissent, the state apparatus “tools up” in advance to manage its inevitability. The law becomes not a framework for adjudicating competing rights but an architecture for foreclosing political possibility.”

“The doctrine of proportionality, which was supposed to protect protest by requiring the state to justify restrictions, has been repurposed as a mechanism for legitimating repression. The courts ask whether Parliament has adequately balanced the competing interests, and the answer is almost invariably that it has. Parliament has spoken. The legislation is clear. The statutory maxima are high. The deterrent intent is manifest. Proportionality is satisfied not because the restrictions are minimal but because Parliament has expressly contemplated severe sanctions for disruptive protest. The doctrine that was meant to constrain legislative power becomes the vehicle for its endorsement.”

Coleridge called the peace produced by such measures ‘cadaverous tranquillity’: the stillness of the grave mistaken for social harmony. The metaphor is apt. The peace of contemporary repression is achieved by killing the political vitality of the population—not through the spectacular violence of authoritarian crackdowns, which might provoke resistance and international condemnation, but through the progressive narrowing of what is legally and politically possible until effective dissent simply ceases. We retain the right to protest, provided we do not use it to achieve anything. We retain the right to dissent, provided our dissent remains comfortably ineffectual. Indeed, this much was candidly conceded by the current Home Secretary, when, in the context of telling pro-Palestine protesters during a period of heightened security concerns that they could ‘get back to your protest later’, she argued that ‘just because you have the freedom to protest doesn’t mean you have to use it’.”

“Consequences and Contradictions
The immediate consequences illustrate this hollowing. Since the proscription came into effect on 5 July 2025, over 2,200 arrests have been made for alleged support of Palestine Action, with many individuals targeted for carrying placards, attending demonstrations, or making statements of solidarity. Because Palestine Action is now a proscribed organisation, holding a placard that is understood as expressing support for Palestine Action can be prosecuted under various offences in sections 12 and 13 of the Terrorism Act 2000, including inviting or recklessly expressing support for a proscribed organisation (section 12, carrying a maximum sentence of 14 years’ imprisonment) or displaying an article in circumstances arousing reasonable suspicion of membership or support (section 13, carrying a maximum sentence of six months’ imprisonment or a fine). The police have interpreted the prohibition broadly, arresting individuals not just for active participation in protests but for passive displays of solidarity. The effect has been a dramatic expansion of what counts as terrorism beyond anything previously contemplated in British law.”

“The human cost has been severe. UN human rights experts have warned that Palestine Action-linked detainees on hunger strike, held for extended periods on remand awaiting trial, face risks of organ failure and death. The Justice Secretary has refused to meet them or their lawyers, treating their hunger strikes as a matter for operational decision-making by prison authorities rather than a political or legal question requiring ministerial intervention. The normalisation of prolonged pre-trial detention for individuals accused of terrorism offences, even where the ‘terrorism’ consists of holding a placard or attending a demonstration, marks a significant departure from established norms.

”What is clear is that these measures are not neutral updates to keep pace with new protest tactics. They constitute a systematic attempt to foreclose political possibility. Naming anticipatory repression for what it is—and contesting it on that terrain, not merely as disproportionate application of existing categories—is the task that the proscription of Palestine Action now places before us.”
Paul O’Connell, Reader in Law at SOAS, University of London.
(Suggested citation: P. O’Connell, ‘Anticipatory Repression and the Proscription of Palestine Action’, U.K. Const. L. Blog (12th January 2026) (available at https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/))

Paul O’Connell: Anticipatory Repression and the Proscription of Palestine Action

The proscription of Palestine Action in July 2025 represents more than an aggressive application of counter-terrorism law. It reveals a broader, qualitative shift in the British state’s approach to…

https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2026/01/12/paul-oconnell-anticipatory-repression-and-the-proscription-of-palestine-action/

SharonEllis · 16/01/2026 10:51

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 10:36

What is the risk of a member of a (in August 2024) legitimate protest group who decided not to join in on the vandalism attack on Elbit systems of “reoffending”? It’s zero because they did not participate, or “offend” in the first place.

How would I know? Im not tbe person who made tbe decision.

Kingscallops · 16/01/2026 12:05

mids2019 · 15/01/2026 06:38

Well that little bit of virtue signalling and attempts to avoid justice and due process failed. Didn't impact the news greatly and I doubt many in the UK knew who they were. Saved cash in prison food I guess.

Maybe they can start another against the Iranian reginme?

They are never interested when it's Muslims killing Muslims. Their simple little minds would implode if they had to be faux outraged at that concept.

noblegiraffe · 16/01/2026 15:08

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/01/2026 10:36

What is the risk of a member of a (in August 2024) legitimate protest group who decided not to join in on the vandalism attack on Elbit systems of “reoffending”? It’s zero because they did not participate, or “offend” in the first place.

Why are you asserting that they were not present at the Elbit attack merely because they were not arrested at the scene but arrested later? They have been charged with the same burglary and vandalism offences as those who were arrested at the scene so I would suspect they were there, that’s there’s evidence that they were there, and they got away from the police, not that they weren’t there.

Do you have different information?

OpheliaIsntMad · 16/01/2026 15:53

BewaretheIckabog · 14/01/2026 21:57

I’ve read all their demands on the Government and much from their supporters and talked to many who support them.

I may not agree with a great deal they say but ending their hunger strike is a good thing. Those baying them on to become martyrs for a cause are disgusting.

I am pleased they will not further risk their health.

Yes. It’s good thing the hunger strike is over - for their sake and because it would set a dangerous precedent to others and/ or set them up as martyrs.

Kingscallops · 16/01/2026 16:06

OpheliaIsntMad · 16/01/2026 15:53

Yes. It’s good thing the hunger strike is over - for their sake and because it would set a dangerous precedent to others and/ or set them up as martyrs.

That poster seems to forget the strikers had a choice take that irresponsible course of action. That's why I will continue to call them useful idiots.

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Actually government is no longer allowed to force feed, but otherwise your point stands! They made choices, they pay the price. Best ignored.