Israel Emptying Refugee Camps a Crime Against Humanity

[Everexpanding]

“The Israeli government’s forced displacement of the populations of three West Bank refugee camps in January and February 2025 amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today. The 32,000 people reportedly removed have not been permitted to return to their homes, many of which Israel forces have deliberately demolished.”

”Israeli authorities in early 2025 forcibly removed 32,000 Palestinians from their homes in West Bank refugee camps without regard to international legal protections and have not permitted them to return,” said Nadia Hardman, senior refugee and migrant rights researcher at Human Rights Watch. “With global attention focused on Gaza, Israeli forces have carried out war crimes, crimes against humanity, and ethnic cleansing in the West Bank that should be investigated and prosecuted.”

https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/11/20/west-bank-israel-emptying-refugee-camps-a-crime-against-humanity

Sorry? Did West Bank Palestinians forcibly removed 32,000 Israelis from their homes at gunpoint with only the clothes on their backs, and then demolish their homes and not allow them to return for almost a year and counting? Confused as to how you think there is a tit for tat going on here.

The refugee camps in the West Bank were established in 1948 when Israel ethnically cleansed present day Israel of Palestinians.

The “self governing” they have had under the PA is more like how our local councils “self govern” under direct control and orders of the central government.

They were in the Palestine Mandate. Israel made a land grab in 1948 displacing over a million Palestinians who ended up massacred or as refugees.

I suspect it’s ignorance. Genuine or faux.

Nah, she's took the P so hard she thinks we're discussing a place called alestine. Hence her confusion

Their origins have a lot to do with it, especially when those ‘refugee camps’ were terrorist encampments and they were emptied to dismantle the terrorist infrastructure in them.

Rather puts a different spin on your OP, which you of course, completely ignore and fail to mention.

www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-860179

That’s not what the IDF army said though. They said they wanted to widen roads so that they have access for tanks just in case there may be terrorists there in the future. Sure governments have eminent domain and can buy properties to widen roads for access, but you don’t do it by sending in troops to clear out property owners like they are squatters, shooting any who don’t move quick enough or try and go back to get medicine or winter clothes. Nor do you then demolish the homes with all their stuff in it.

Your own link doesn’t say that the refugee camps were “terrorist encampments”

”Despite Israel’s continued ban on most Palestinian laborers working in Israel, there has been no widespread unrest.
“The Palestinian public is indifferent,” said the defense official. “They want to live. They’re not resisting. The IDF’s role is to prevent them from sliding into violence.”
Before Hamas’s October 7 massacre, over 200,000 Palestinians worked in Israel or in West Bank industrial zones. Today, that figure has dropped significantly. According to estimates, about 40,000 Palestinians are staying in Israel illegally, alongside 10,000 legally employed workers and another 20,000 in West Bank factories. Many others have found alternate employment.
Meanwhile, the Palestinian Authority is facing a deep financial crisis due to Israel’s withholding of clearance revenues, taxes collected on its behalf. Without these funds, the PA is unable to pay salaries, including to its own security personnel.
In light of the relative stability in the West Bank, Israeli defense officials have reportedly recommended easing restrictions and allowing more Palestinian laborers to return to work inside Israel.”

One siding it like this feeds the hatred and refusal of the other sides rights that fuels this conflict.

In fact it was the UN that partitioned the land formerly known as Palestine. The Arab refusal to accept this partition, and simmering 1000's of years old hatreds on both sides led to a brutal war during which both sides committed atrocities and lots of Palestinians either fled or were violently removed from the land. The Arab Palestinians who stayed are now citizens of Israel.

The Palestinians who fled are still refugees and still dont have their own self determining state. They have frequently resorted to political violence aimed at Israeli citizens. The Israeli state uses these instances of political violence as an excuse to violently oppress a lot of Palestinians who live in some dystopian half state, neither Israel or Palestine, on the verges of Israel proper.

They both need leadership commited to the rights of the other group to break this deadlock.

Its a bit less catchy, but a lot more honest.

Yes you’ve added more context, but the fact remains that Israel did make a land grab and took lands the UN had set aside for Palestinians by lethal force. So, based on the facts on the ground, neither Israelis nor Palestinians accepted the UN partition. If Israel had accepted the partition, they would have stopped at the lines drawn by the UN. They didn’t. And this sort of crossing agreed on official borders to land grab has been repeated over and over.

Apologies about the derail Everexpanding, but these lies about "What Country" should not be allowed to stand. The Palestinians are in refugee camps because a country (Britain) that had no right to gave their land away to another people who ethnically cleansed them after planning to colonize Palestine in the 1890s.

Colonization was the aim of Austrian Theordor Herzl "the Father of Zionism” wrote about this in his book "A Jewish State" in 1896. He argued for the creation of a Jewish State and:

Herzl had confided to his diary the idea of spiriting away the poor population of whatever country was chosen for a future Jewish state to make way for Jews:

We must expropriate gently the private property on the estates assigned to us. We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it employment in our own country The property owners will come over to our side. Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheodorHerzl

Herzl proposed two possible regions for settlement – Argentina and Palestine – but recognized in Der Judenstaat that colonization in either would be difficult:

"In both countries important experiments in colonization have been made, though on the mistaken principle of a gradual infiltration of Jews. An infiltration is bound to end badly. It continues till the inevitable moment when the native population feels itself threatened, and forces the government to stop a further influx of Jews. Immigration is consequently futile unless we have the sovereign right to continue such immigration."

For that reason, Herzl, both in Der Judenstaat and in his political activity on behalf of Zionism, concentrated his efforts on securing official legal sanction from, as he put it,

"the present masters of the land, putting itself under the protectorate of the European Powers, if they prove friendly to the plan."

Attempts to negotiate with the Ottoman authorities failed, but with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire at the end of World War I and the subsequent creation of Mandatory Palestine under the control of Britain, the Zionists gained success: Britain issued the Balfour Declaration that supported the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DerJudenstaat
Even in August 1903 after the sixth Zionist Congress the British Government via British colonial secretary Joseph Chamberlain offered to permit Jewish national settlement in British East Africa and the Uganda Scheme was born:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UgandaScheme
International Newspapers from the late 1800s reported about the "Plans to Colonize Palestine".

People doing this should also be aware that as they revise history to suit their propaganda, other less than nice people will also use this as an excuse to revise (and in fact are happily doing so) other historical events that may turn out be less than desirable in the future.

From the article I linked:

In January 2025, the IDF launched Operation Iron Wall in the West Bank, aiming to restore operational freedom inside Palestinian refugee camps. Military officials now say the operation has yielded significant results.

The campaign, led in coordination with the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency), targeted armed terror cells, some directly funded by Iran, known as katibat. Since the start of the operation, the number of senior wanted suspects has dropped from around 120 to just a handful, according to Israeli security sources.
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“There are no longer armed parades in the camps. There are no more safe havens,” one senior defense official said. “A year ago, we couldn’t enter the heart of the Jenin refugee camp. Today, there’s no more daily gunfire at nearby Israeli communities.”
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The IDF also reports a sharp decline in terror alerts and thwarted plots, citing some of the lowest figures in recent years. That, officials say, is due to near-continuous activity across the West Bank. “We now have the operational freedom to act wherever we need,” the official added.

Dealing with explosives and weapons
One of the campaign’s early focuses was neutralizing the threat of improvised explosive devices (IEDs) on key routes leading into Samaria’s refugee camps. “We started with hundreds of IEDs. Now we’re down to just a few,” the defense official said. “This is a broad, ongoing campaign.”
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According to the IDF, more than 1,000 terrorists have been killed in air and ground strikes since the start of the operation, with roughly 4% identified as uninvolved civilians. Over 2,000 weapons have also been seized.
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“We are aggressive but very precise,” said the official. “Anyone who visits the camps today will see they’re unrecognizable. These used to be the central hubs of terror activity. At some point, we realized that without taking back the camps, we couldn’t achieve long-term results. And now? We’re seeing the lowest level of terrorism in a year and a half.”

OK terror encampments was the wrong word - central hubs of terror activity.

Unsurprisingly you missed all the above out and just coped and pasted the bit afterwards.

Israel accepted the partition and declared the state of Israel.
No Palestinian declared a state of Palestine because they preferred to try to get all of the land themselves as any Jewish state at all was unacceptable.
The first land grab was actually made by Arab Jordanians ( the West Bank ) and Arab Egypt ( Gaza strip ) and Israel ( other parts of Israel that the UN had intended for the Palestinians state that no Palestinian bothered to declare.) You left the Arab landgrabs off your narrative. I wonder why.

The amount of misinformation allowed to pass on these threads is disgraceful.

Israel has done enough to criticize, it's completely unnecessary to try to paint an incorrect picture. It feeds the hatred that feeds the conflict.

I’m glad you posted the rest as it shows zero mention that the refugee camps were “terror encampments” or “terror hubs”. It’s obvious you don’t know what a terror cell is. A terror cell is a diffuse network of terrorists that do not live close together. They aren’t in hubs or encampments.

It also shows what I was saying too that the illegally executed demolitions were to gain better access to arrest (or extrajudicially execute) suspected terrorists. The people forced from their homes were not terrorists.

There was no Palestinian or Arab land grab, that’s why I left it off. By 1949, Israel ended up with 100% of what the UN gave it plus 60% of what the UN gave the Palestinians.

Proto-Israeli militias were grabbing land the UN set aside for Palestine by autumn of 1947. Over 250k refugees had fled from the militias and they appealed to the Arab League for help. The Arab league intervened in 1948, sending a wire to the UN and they only secured a small fraction of the land set aside for Palestine- West Bank and Gaza. They did not annex it because they asked the UN to recognise a Palestinian state. It’s not a “land grab” if you are only claiming land officially set aside for you by the UN/internationally recognised borders.

But the US vetoed every attempt to recognise one because they decided that Israel must decide if Palestine can have a state. Israel has refused for over eighty years to recognise the existence of a Palestinian state, and the US has vetoed every attempt to do so.

@dairydebris
Israel accepted the partition and declared the state of Israel.

They did not accept the partition because they had already been since 1947 (prior to the formal announcement of their existence as state) and continued during 1948 and 1949 to seize 60% of the land set aside for Palestine by brute force. To include massacring entire villages.

If Israel had accepted the partition, they would have stayed within the partition borders instead of deliberately taking a hell of a lot more.

They still don’t accept the partition because look at the ensuing decades of more and more land being grabbed from neighbouring countries and from the UN lands set aside for Palestine. The politicians today are so bold, they are completely transparent about the plan to annex all of it. To them God gave them all the land and the UN can go fuck itself.

From the BBC:

The residents of West Bank refugee camps are mostly descended from Palestinians who fled or were driven from their homes during the war surrounding Israel's creation in 1948-49.

God, how incredibly generous of the Israelis to accept the partition of UN which gave them, more land than was proportionate to their percentage of the population.

And how unreasonable of the local populations to not want to give away the homes and villages that they had lived in for centuries to a group of newcomers.

Why not ask the neighbouring countries why they won't accept these people and why they've built a big massive wall.

Stop trying to attack Jews, they obviously will bite back harder.

And there in lies most of the problem.

There is a neighbouring country that could accept them and has the added advantage of being the same place from whence many of those people came: Israel. That’s a great idea.

No one is attacking “Jews” here. Rather the Israeli zionist military who bomb innocent civilians, detain people without trial and generally commit war crimes with impunity. And the Western (very firmly non Jewish) politicians who are helping them.

But I suspect you already know that. It’s a good ruse. Don’t have an argument? Deflect with accusations of racism. Bravo.

Why should they accept them? They have their own land. Why are Israel trying to kick them off it?

It quite clearly says in the article (dated July 2025):

Anyone who visits the camps today will see they’re unrecognizable. These used to be the central hubs of terror activity. At some point, we realized that without taking back the camps, we couldn’t achieve long-term results. And now? We’re seeing the lowest level of terrorism in a year and a half.”

A terror cell is a small, covert unit of individuals, typically consisting of two to five members, that is part of a larger terrorist organization. These cells are trained and organized to carry out specific clandestine objectives, such as intelligence gathering, acquiring arms, and executing attacks.

I think you’ve confused terror cells with the wider network of the organisation. The description of a ‘cell’, which in simple terms means small unit, is a clue. I’d suggest you don’t know what one is, not me. I’d don’t think they’d be very effective if they weren’t situated in close proximity.

And no, what is described in the article shows that there was a clear operational objective for clearing the refugee camps, as you say yourself, to gain better access to stop and prevent terrorist attacks or do you believe these terror cells should have been left alone because their target is Israel and Israelis?

I don’t think any other military would leave a threat like that on their doorstep, especially after a massive terrorist attack like Oct 7th, nor would be they be expected to.

It’s part of the process of colonial expansion and ethnic cleansing - the intention has been articulated and owned by the Israeli government so no amount of pontificating, excusing or justifying on here makes sense.

Have you anything to say about 32,000 being removed from their homes and their homes demolished?

The residents of West Bank refugee camps are mostly descended from Palestinians who fled or were driven from their homes during the war surrounding Israel's creation in 1948-49.
www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg5m8qdl6n9o