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Conflict in the Middle East

Trump's plan for Gaza backed by UN Security Council

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Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 05:31

The UN Security Council has voted in favour of a US-drafted resolution that endorses US President Donald Trump's 20-point plan for Gaza.

Included in the plan is the establishment of an International Stabilisation Force (ISF), to which, the US says, multiple unnamed countries have offered to contribute.

The resolution was backed by 13 countries - including the UK, France and Somalia - with none voting against the proposal. Russia and China abstained.

Adopting it was an "important step in the consolidation of the ceasefire," a spokesperson for UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said. Hamas has rejected the resolution, saying it fails to meet Palestinians' rights and demands.

Under the resolution, the ISF will work with Israel and Egypt, along with a newly trained and vetted Palestinian police force, to help secure border areas and ensure the process of permanently disarming non-state armed groups, including Hamas.

Until now, the police there have operated under the authority of Hamas.
Mike Waltz, the US's ambassador to the UN, told the Council that the ISF would be "tasked with securing the area, supporting the demilitarization of Gaza, dismantling the terrorist infrastructure, removing weapons, and ensuring the safety of Palestinian civilians".

The Security Council also approved the creation of a transitional governance body called the Board of Peace (BoP), which would supervise governance of a Palestinian technocratic, apolitical committee and oversee the reconstruction of Gaza and the delivery of humanitarian aid.

Financing for reconstruction of Gaza following two years of war would come from a trust fund backed by the World Bank, according to the resolution.
Under the resolution, both the ISF and the BoP would work alongside a Palestinian committee and police force.

Trump called the Security Council vote "historic" and said it was a way of "acknowledging and endorsing" the BoP, with its final membership to be announced soon. He is expected to chair it.

"This will go down as one of the biggest approvals in the History of the United Nations, will lead to further Peace all over the World, and is a moment of true Historic proportion!" he wrote on his Truth Social platform.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rpkgq4wllo

Long shot of Gaza rubble and demolished homes, bricks and concrete burying roads

Trump's plan for Gaza backed by UN Security Council

Included in the 20-point peace plan is the establishment of an International Stabilisation Force (ISF), which would work to demilitarise the territory.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rpkgq4wllo

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Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 05:36

From the same article:

Unlike earlier drafts, the resolution references a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood. It is language several council members pushed for.

Israel strongly opposes the creation of a Palestinian state, a significant hurdle in the path to future statehood. Key Arab states had pressured drafters of the resolution to include Palestinian self-determination in the text.

The UN Secretary-General's spokesperson stressed that the resolution needed to "translate... into concrete and urgently needed steps on the ground" and lead to "a political process for the achievement of the two-State solution".
The US, the Palestinian Authority, and several Arab and Muslim-majority nations including Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Turkey have called for the quick adoption of the resolution.

The Palestinian Authority (PA) said in a statement that the resolution's terms needed to be implemented "urgently and immediately".

Russia and China did not exercise their vetoes, but abstained to allow the resolution to pass, largely because the PA and eight other Arab and Muslim nations backed it.

Both Moscow and Beijing criticised the resolution. They said there was little clarity about the key mechanisms' composition, that it did not ensure the participation of the UN, and that it failed to explicitly reiterate a firm commitment to the two-state solution.

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Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 05:58

Also reported in the New York Times:

The resolution passed with 13 votes in favor and zero votes against. Russia and China, either of which could have vetoed it, abstained, apparently swayed by the support for the resolution from a number of Arab and Muslim nations: Egypt, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, as well as Indonesia, Turkey and Pakistan, which is a member of the Council.

Mike Waltz, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, who addressed the Council before the vote, called Gaza “hell on earth” and held up a copy of the resolution, describing it as “a lifeline.” After the vote, Mr. Waltz thanked the Council for “joining us in charting a new course for Israelis, Palestinians and all the people in the region alike.”

Security Council resolutions are considered legally binding international law, and although the Council does not have a mechanism for enforcing such resolutions, it can take measures to punish violators with penalties such as sanctions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/17/world/middleeast/un-security-council-gaza-peace-plan.html

The American resolution passed in the U.N. Security Council on Monday with 13 votes in favor.

In Major Breakthrough, U.N. Security Council Adopts U.S. Peace Plan for Gaza

Russia and China abstained in the vote, which provides a legal mandate for the Trump administration’s vision of how to move past the cease-fire to rebuild the war-ravaged enclave after two years of war.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/17/world/middleeast/un-security-council-gaza-peace-plan.html

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mids2019 · 18/11/2025 07:46

Interesting and important development. A lot hangs on Hamas disarmament which is far from certain unfortunately.

The resolution was passed with a large majority so I think there is a mandate here so is this progress?

The ISF I am sure will be the focus of the weekly marches around the UK though ........

Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 08:01

It had a positive response.

13 votes in favour, 2 abstentions, 0 votes against.

The people most upset about it are Hamas and their supporters (& some extreme right wing members of Netanyahu's governing coalition) so anything that upsets that lot must be good!

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mids2019 · 18/11/2025 08:29

I agree.

On a depressing note Hamas are gaining popularity in the West bank and Abbas ages so it seems their malign manifesto has appeal amongst Plalestinians which is regretable.

One of the aims of the any new governance will be to look at Gazan education and prevent radicalisation which will be long hard job but hopefully will bear fruit.

Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 15:20

mids2019 · 18/11/2025 08:29

I agree.

On a depressing note Hamas are gaining popularity in the West bank and Abbas ages so it seems their malign manifesto has appeal amongst Plalestinians which is regretable.

One of the aims of the any new governance will be to look at Gazan education and prevent radicalisation which will be long hard job but hopefully will bear fruit.

Definitely agree re the need for reforms in Gazan education.

The Palestinian foreign minister called the resolution "the first step in a long road towards peace. That step was needed because we could not embark on anything else before we had a ceasefire.”

She said that although the US president’s plan alluded to possible Palestinian statehood taking place only after the Palestinian Authority carried out reforms, that issue could be taken up later. “As long as these elements are in there, we’re happy with this first step.”

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Thedawnchorus · 18/11/2025 15:33

Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 15:20

Definitely agree re the need for reforms in Gazan education.

The Palestinian foreign minister called the resolution "the first step in a long road towards peace. That step was needed because we could not embark on anything else before we had a ceasefire.”

She said that although the US president’s plan alluded to possible Palestinian statehood taking place only after the Palestinian Authority carried out reforms, that issue could be taken up later. “As long as these elements are in there, we’re happy with this first step.”

@mids2019 , you seriously think the reason Palestinians don't like Israel is because they are radicalised at school??? I know many Palestinians who have never been to school in Palestine, descendants of the first Nakba, who have been educated in Britain or the US and they absolutely hate Israel. Not because they have been radicalised but because they know the truth about how Israel has been oppressing the Palestinians for decades.

Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 15:42

Thedawnchorus · 18/11/2025 15:33

@mids2019 , you seriously think the reason Palestinians don't like Israel is because they are radicalised at school??? I know many Palestinians who have never been to school in Palestine, descendants of the first Nakba, who have been educated in Britain or the US and they absolutely hate Israel. Not because they have been radicalised but because they know the truth about how Israel has been oppressing the Palestinians for decades.

We get it - the people you know absolutely hate Israel.

But the education system in Gaza needs reform regardless of anything else, as this report clearly shows:

New UN Watch Report Exposes Hamas Takeover of UNRWA Schools in Gaza and Lebanon

September 17, 2025A damning new report presented today before the Bundestag exposes how Hamas leaders infiltrated and now dominate the education system of UNRWA in Gaza and Lebanon. Hamas chiefs simultaneously served as school principals, union leaders, and senior educators — while openly glorifying terrorism, recruiting children into militant activity, and blocking reforms such as Holocaust education.

The 218-page detailed investigation by Swiss human rights group UN Watch, titled Schools in the Grip of Terror, exposes how the UN was aware of Hamas’s control over its schools yet failed to act.

“For years, governments have been writing billion-dollar checks to UNRWA believing they were investing in peace and tolerance,” said UN Watch Executive Director Hillel Neuer.

“Our investigation reveals the shocking truth: UNRWA’s classrooms have been hijacked by Hamas and turned into incubators of hate. Donor states must confront the reality that they are financing terror by proxy.”

UN Watch’s new report focuses on two case studies — Suhail Al-Hindi in Gaza and Fateh Sharif in Lebanon — confirming these widespread neutrality failures and revealing that their successors in UNRWA unions are also Hamas operatives.

Part I of the report documents how senior Hamas operative Suhail Al-Hindi captured UNRWA’s education system in Gaza. From 2006 to 2017, Al-Hindi was simultaneously a Hamas leader, an UNRWA school principal, and head of the UNRWA Gaza Staff Union, overseeing 8,000 teachers and 220,000 students. Although UNRWA was well aware of Al-Hindi’s Hamas connections, it chose to ignore them.

Since his resignation from UNRWA in 2017, Al-Hindi has emerged as a key member of Hamas’s leadership while retaining his influence over UNRWA in Gaza. Most recently, Al-Hindi was seen alongside senior Hamas leaders meeting the group’s Iranian backers in Qatar.

unwatch.org/new-un-watch-report-exposes-hamas-takeover-of-unrwa-schools-in-gaza-and-lebanon/

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Thedawnchorus · 18/11/2025 16:23

Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 15:42

We get it - the people you know absolutely hate Israel.

But the education system in Gaza needs reform regardless of anything else, as this report clearly shows:

New UN Watch Report Exposes Hamas Takeover of UNRWA Schools in Gaza and Lebanon

September 17, 2025A damning new report presented today before the Bundestag exposes how Hamas leaders infiltrated and now dominate the education system of UNRWA in Gaza and Lebanon. Hamas chiefs simultaneously served as school principals, union leaders, and senior educators — while openly glorifying terrorism, recruiting children into militant activity, and blocking reforms such as Holocaust education.

The 218-page detailed investigation by Swiss human rights group UN Watch, titled Schools in the Grip of Terror, exposes how the UN was aware of Hamas’s control over its schools yet failed to act.

“For years, governments have been writing billion-dollar checks to UNRWA believing they were investing in peace and tolerance,” said UN Watch Executive Director Hillel Neuer.

“Our investigation reveals the shocking truth: UNRWA’s classrooms have been hijacked by Hamas and turned into incubators of hate. Donor states must confront the reality that they are financing terror by proxy.”

UN Watch’s new report focuses on two case studies — Suhail Al-Hindi in Gaza and Fateh Sharif in Lebanon — confirming these widespread neutrality failures and revealing that their successors in UNRWA unions are also Hamas operatives.

Part I of the report documents how senior Hamas operative Suhail Al-Hindi captured UNRWA’s education system in Gaza. From 2006 to 2017, Al-Hindi was simultaneously a Hamas leader, an UNRWA school principal, and head of the UNRWA Gaza Staff Union, overseeing 8,000 teachers and 220,000 students. Although UNRWA was well aware of Al-Hindi’s Hamas connections, it chose to ignore them.

Since his resignation from UNRWA in 2017, Al-Hindi has emerged as a key member of Hamas’s leadership while retaining his influence over UNRWA in Gaza. Most recently, Al-Hindi was seen alongside senior Hamas leaders meeting the group’s Iranian backers in Qatar.

unwatch.org/new-un-watch-report-exposes-hamas-takeover-of-unrwa-schools-in-gaza-and-lebanon/

I don't doubt for one minute that Hamas are exerting an influence in schools. They were the de facto government whether you, or I, like it or not. You think Israel doesn't? You think it doesn't happen in the US? Once again though, I really don't consider your source as a viable one as they are purely an Israeli mouthpiece. Nevertheless, my point is, Palestinians don't need to be educated to hate Israel. Israel does that all by itself by stealing land, oppressing the population, regularly 'mowing the grass' in Gaza, incarcerating children without charge, breaking their bones for throwing a stone, murdering Palestinians without repercussions and just generally treating Palestinians as third class citizens.

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 18/11/2025 16:35

We get it - the people you know absolutely hate Israel.

Bit harsh. You can’t possibly know that.

Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 16:37

Thedawnchorus · 18/11/2025 16:23

I don't doubt for one minute that Hamas are exerting an influence in schools. They were the de facto government whether you, or I, like it or not. You think Israel doesn't? You think it doesn't happen in the US? Once again though, I really don't consider your source as a viable one as they are purely an Israeli mouthpiece. Nevertheless, my point is, Palestinians don't need to be educated to hate Israel. Israel does that all by itself by stealing land, oppressing the population, regularly 'mowing the grass' in Gaza, incarcerating children without charge, breaking their bones for throwing a stone, murdering Palestinians without repercussions and just generally treating Palestinians as third class citizens.

I don't care if you consider my source a viable one or not. I posted it more for other people's sake in relation to the point made by @mids2019 about how one aim of the the new governance will be to look at Gazan education and prevent radicalisation.

This thread is about Trump's plan for Gaza being backed by the UN Security Council. If you've nothing to say about that piece of news or anything else relating to the new governance, can I politely request you start your own thread?

You obviously have a huge amount of anti - Israel points you want to make over and over again but I would appreciate you not derailing every thread with them.

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Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 16:40

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 18/11/2025 16:35

We get it - the people you know absolutely hate Israel.

Bit harsh. You can’t possibly know that.

They literally said it in their post

"I know many Palestinians who have never been to school in Palestine ... who have been educated in Britain or the US and they absolutely hate Israel."

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Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 16:43

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 18/11/2025 16:35

We get it - the people you know absolutely hate Israel.

Bit harsh. You can’t possibly know that.

Anything to say about the actual topic of the thread?

As a reminder, it's about Trump's plan for Gaza being backed by the UN Security Council with 13 votes in favour and 0 against.

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EasternStandard · 18/11/2025 16:45

Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 05:58

Also reported in the New York Times:

The resolution passed with 13 votes in favor and zero votes against. Russia and China, either of which could have vetoed it, abstained, apparently swayed by the support for the resolution from a number of Arab and Muslim nations: Egypt, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, as well as Indonesia, Turkey and Pakistan, which is a member of the Council.

Mike Waltz, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, who addressed the Council before the vote, called Gaza “hell on earth” and held up a copy of the resolution, describing it as “a lifeline.” After the vote, Mr. Waltz thanked the Council for “joining us in charting a new course for Israelis, Palestinians and all the people in the region alike.”

Security Council resolutions are considered legally binding international law, and although the Council does not have a mechanism for enforcing such resolutions, it can take measures to punish violators with penalties such as sanctions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/17/world/middleeast/un-security-council-gaza-peace-plan.html

That’s really good. I wondered what China and Russia would do and abstaining is better than vetoing.

Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 16:50

EasternStandard · 18/11/2025 16:45

That’s really good. I wondered what China and Russia would do and abstaining is better than vetoing.

Yes ... by abstaining they basically allowed the resolution to pass so anything they say now against it is just words.

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Everexpanding · 18/11/2025 16:58

Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 15:42

We get it - the people you know absolutely hate Israel.

But the education system in Gaza needs reform regardless of anything else, as this report clearly shows:

New UN Watch Report Exposes Hamas Takeover of UNRWA Schools in Gaza and Lebanon

September 17, 2025A damning new report presented today before the Bundestag exposes how Hamas leaders infiltrated and now dominate the education system of UNRWA in Gaza and Lebanon. Hamas chiefs simultaneously served as school principals, union leaders, and senior educators — while openly glorifying terrorism, recruiting children into militant activity, and blocking reforms such as Holocaust education.

The 218-page detailed investigation by Swiss human rights group UN Watch, titled Schools in the Grip of Terror, exposes how the UN was aware of Hamas’s control over its schools yet failed to act.

“For years, governments have been writing billion-dollar checks to UNRWA believing they were investing in peace and tolerance,” said UN Watch Executive Director Hillel Neuer.

“Our investigation reveals the shocking truth: UNRWA’s classrooms have been hijacked by Hamas and turned into incubators of hate. Donor states must confront the reality that they are financing terror by proxy.”

UN Watch’s new report focuses on two case studies — Suhail Al-Hindi in Gaza and Fateh Sharif in Lebanon — confirming these widespread neutrality failures and revealing that their successors in UNRWA unions are also Hamas operatives.

Part I of the report documents how senior Hamas operative Suhail Al-Hindi captured UNRWA’s education system in Gaza. From 2006 to 2017, Al-Hindi was simultaneously a Hamas leader, an UNRWA school principal, and head of the UNRWA Gaza Staff Union, overseeing 8,000 teachers and 220,000 students. Although UNRWA was well aware of Al-Hindi’s Hamas connections, it chose to ignore them.

Since his resignation from UNRWA in 2017, Al-Hindi has emerged as a key member of Hamas’s leadership while retaining his influence over UNRWA in Gaza. Most recently, Al-Hindi was seen alongside senior Hamas leaders meeting the group’s Iranian backers in Qatar.

unwatch.org/new-un-watch-report-exposes-hamas-takeover-of-unrwa-schools-in-gaza-and-lebanon/

Un watch is not a credible or trustworthy organisation as has been posted about on this board before. Please stop quoting misinformation from them

Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 17:07

Everexpanding · 18/11/2025 16:58

Un watch is not a credible or trustworthy organisation as has been posted about on this board before. Please stop quoting misinformation from them

That's your opinion not mine and whether you trust the source or not, details given in their report about people like Suhail Al-Hindi are factual.

Suhail Al-Hindi is even referred to as a Hamas official and "member of Hamas’s political bureau" by Al Jazeera and presumably you consider them a decent source despite they have an obvious bias.

https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2025/9/9/hamas-official-says-leadership-survived-attack-in-doha

Hamas official says leadership survived attack in Doha

Hamas’s leadership that was targeted in an Israeli attack in Doha has survived but at least two others were killed.

https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2025/9/9/hamas-official-says-leadership-survived-attack-in-doha

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Everexpanding · 18/11/2025 17:11

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I'll post from the sources I want to post from, along with everyone else on this site.

Can you say which part you don't believe - that he is a Hamas official or that he was a school principal or what? It's all verified in other sources too.

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Everexpanding · 18/11/2025 17:23

Israel has done more to radicalise Palestinians than any school

Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 17:23

@Everexpanding have you anything to say about the title of this thread or have you just come on to stop the debate?

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Everexpanding · 18/11/2025 17:29

You were posting about the need you see to reform the Palestinian education system. Firstly I would ask you what Palestinian education system, schools, nurseries and universities all have been destroyed by Israeli bombing??

Twiglets1 · 18/11/2025 17:34

Everexpanding · 18/11/2025 17:29

You were posting about the need you see to reform the Palestinian education system. Firstly I would ask you what Palestinian education system, schools, nurseries and universities all have been destroyed by Israeli bombing??

The references to the Palestinian education system were made in passing and by no means the main point of the thread.

I'm not interested in further derailment which is boring when it happens on every thread. So I'll leave you to it.

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