How can you tell when Hamas has been eliminated ?

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It's Israel's aim to eliminate Hamas.
What is the Israeli definition of the word eliminate ?
How will they know when they've achieved it ?

‘Eliminating Hamas’ through warfare and starvation is a bonkers idea. Terror begets terror and this generation of traumatised Palestinian children will be the most fertile recruiting ground for Hamas and similar organisations that they’ve ever had.

Current Israeli actions are more likely to make people join Hamas who otherwise wouldn't have

Unless those people don’t exist anymore? I’m not Israeli or Palestinian, I don’t have family/friends from either and I have no affiliation with either. In short, I’m not barracking for either as a ‘winner’. However, if I was either of them, at this point I’d be looking, once and for all to wipe out both current and future threats. That would include current supporters and potential future supporters, who are those likely to be angry enough about whatever’s going on now to take up arms or continue this somehow down the track. That’s a massive undertaking though and you would need to be bloody brutal to be successful. The only other strategy that’s not a short term fix is permanent negotiation with one side completely conceding, and that’s never going to happen here. You essentially have two people who believe they own the same thing, common sense says any truce is only ever going to be short lived.

I'd imagine Israeli intelligence has a pretty good idea who Hamas currently is. And I imagine they know a lot more than we think they know.

I suppose elimination is when they no longer exist as a political entity with any power or influence in Gaza. Because enough of them have been killed, because they enter into some kind of deal that let's them and their families escape from the mess they've made, because a new leader or group arises with a genuine intent to find peace?

At the moment I think they're playing some sick game of Chicken, who blinks first. How far will Israel go? And watch their whole nation go down in flames. October 7th was the worst blunder of the century so far.

The best way out of this is for Hamas to surrender, return the hostages, remove the wind from the extreme Right's sails, elections to be held in Israel, and power to be removed from extremists on both sides.

For me, elimination means complete loss of power.

For me, elimination means complete loss of power. @dairydebris

Phase 2 of the ceasefire was Hamas stepping down from power, which they agreed to do in Feb this year. It was Israel that didn't want phase 2.

www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-842236

I haven't fully understood the reasons for not progressing to stage 2, and anyway I'm not sure inner motivations are always correctly reported on. I wish that both sides had been able to stick with the ceasefire though, the situation feels currently on a very dark path.

3 days ago at 7pm as far as I can see. At Ein HaShlosha and Nirim. Personally I don’t think this is the test, but facts are important and they have launched many rockets since April 3rd.

Rockets, at the moment are really neither here nor there. They present very little danger to life or material and are being launched only very sporadically. Militarily they achieve nothing apart from irritating Israel and giving the impression to the Palestinians in Gaza that they are still offering resistance to the Israelis.

Israel managed to avoid the doomsday rocket scenario from Hezbollah, which would have been horrific for Israel, probably due to Iranian intervention.

I have read that there have been ongoing rocket attacks, the most recent I have read about was last week.

https://www.jns.org/palestinian-terrorists-in-gaza-launch-rockets-at-israel/

That’s infuriating.
Hopefully the ceasefire will be agreed soon- for the hostages and Palestinians, as well as those living in Israel.