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US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

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Twiglets1 · 10/05/2025 06:12

The US has confirmed that a new system for providing humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza through private companies is being prepared, as Israel's blockade continues for a third month.

US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee said "distribution centres" protected by security contractors would provide food and other supplies to over a million people initially, as part of an effort to prevent Hamas stealing aid.

He denied Israel would take part in aid delivery or distribution, but said its forces would secure the centres' perimeters.

It comes as details emerged about the controversial plan, which UN agencies have reiterated they will not co-operate with because it appears to "weaponize" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

Palestinian receive food cooked by a charity kitchen in Beit Lahia, northern Gaza Strip (8 May 2025)

US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

UN agencies say they will not co-operate with the proposed system because it appears to "weaponise" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

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User37482 · 26/05/2025 13:51

BelleHathor · 26/05/2025 13:26

Well he is a Palestinian, born in Gaza so I give him the right to call people whatever he likes right now in this current situation.

I follow Palestinians on twitter who say Hamas are stealing aid and shooting people.

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2025 14:08

CrackingDawn · 26/05/2025 13:40

I find the term genocide used in this context problematic, manipulative and borderline anti semitic. That does not mean there aren't serious human rights concerns or indeed war crimes being committed by both sides. The region is hugely complex and the way Israel is going about managing its interests is very problematic. It's also very worrying how powerful Hamas became and that they brutally abuse their own people, without morals, scruples or any shred of humanity. And major world powers, such as the US* *, Russia, Iran, and China, use this conflict to advance their strategic interests, so a reasonable resolution seems impossible. I wish we had better world leaders to deal with this mess and bring about lasting peace.

I agree with your post.

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AIBUHere · 26/05/2025 14:10

There is no doubt that when this new aid programme proves successful over the coming weeks, there will be a massive ramp up in anti Israel propaganda/blood libel.

The fact that the UN has declared that they want nothing to do with this, before they then spread false information about child starvation stats, says it all about the corruption and anti Israel rhetoric /antisemitism.

Why would the UN NOT want Hamas to be stopped from misappropriating Aid so it gets to people in need and doesn’t prolong the war by being used as currency/wages for fighters.

Why would the UN NOT want Hamas to be stopped from being in control of the population through Aid and from brutally torturing and executing Palestinians for taking Aid meant for them and for their families.

It’s not as if they haven’t looked the other way while the above was going on over the last 21 months (and for decades before) is it?

Hmmmmm.

BelleHathor · 26/05/2025 14:12

Yes, there are some Palestinians born in Gaza that do say that and their accounts are the ones that often amplified by the Pro Israeli side (can be checked by looking at who they are following and vice versa). They often live in the West (as does Muhammad Shehada whose thread I linked to).

Often their views vary widely from Palestinians currently living in the Occupied Territories (Gaza, Jerusalem and the West Bank) and they are not looked on favourably and as somewhat as collaborators with Israel and the West for giving them cover. Even Muhammad Shehada has been accused of being a collaborator.

The three Palestinians often quoted: are Mosab Hasan Yousef (The Son of Hamas), John Aziz, and Ahmed Fouad Al-Khatib.

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Twiglets1 · 26/05/2025 14:14

BelleHathor · 26/05/2025 14:12

Yes, there are some Palestinians born in Gaza that do say that and their accounts are the ones that often amplified by the Pro Israeli side (can be checked by looking at who they are following and vice versa). They often live in the West (as does Muhammad Shehada whose thread I linked to).

Often their views vary widely from Palestinians currently living in the Occupied Territories (Gaza, Jerusalem and the West Bank) and they are not looked on favourably and as somewhat as collaborators with Israel and the West for giving them cover. Even Muhammad Shehada has been accused of being a collaborator.

The three Palestinians often quoted: are Mosab Hasan Yousef (The Son of Hamas), John Aziz, and Ahmed Fouad Al-Khatib.

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I'm not Palestinian so it's not my place to judge, who's right or wrong.

Bit late to say it's not your place to judge who's right or wrong.

You've already judged the the person you quoted and said he is a Palestinian, born in Gaza so I give him the right to call people whatever he likes right now in this current situation.

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Whatsinanamehey · 26/05/2025 14:15

AIBUHere · 26/05/2025 14:10

There is no doubt that when this new aid programme proves successful over the coming weeks, there will be a massive ramp up in anti Israel propaganda/blood libel.

The fact that the UN has declared that they want nothing to do with this, before they then spread false information about child starvation stats, says it all about the corruption and anti Israel rhetoric /antisemitism.

Why would the UN NOT want Hamas to be stopped from misappropriating Aid so it gets to people in need and doesn’t prolong the war by being used as currency/wages for fighters.

Why would the UN NOT want Hamas to be stopped from being in control of the population through Aid and from brutally torturing and executing Palestinians for taking Aid meant for them and for their families.

It’s not as if they haven’t looked the other way while the above was going on over the last 21 months (and for decades before) is it?

Hmmmmm.

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Why did the CEO resign?

CrackingDawn · 26/05/2025 14:18

Mylegishangingoff · 26/05/2025 13:48

I prefer to use attempted ethnic cleansing myself when discussing it because Israel themselves have been clear that that is their goal. There is no way people can argue that that isn't what it is and posts can't get taken off on a tangent when you are just repeating what has been openly stated as the plan for Gaza going forward.

I think referring to it as ethnic cleansing or even conducting a military campaign that may include war crimes is fair. I detest how some people on both sides weaponise language, imagery and emotion to influence opinion and garner support. It’s a cynical strategy that preys on people's empathy but ultimately undermines truth and accountability.

quantumbutterfly · 26/05/2025 14:21

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2025 14:14

Bit late to say it's not your place to judge who's right or wrong.

You've already judged the the person you quoted and said he is a Palestinian, born in Gaza so I give him the right to call people whatever he likes right now in this current situation.

Whilst posting you tube vids of what seems to be a hamas/hezbollah fanboy ( bad empanada).Google is your friend.

BelleHathor · 26/05/2025 14:24

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2025 14:14

Bit late to say it's not your place to judge who's right or wrong.

You've already judged the the person you quoted and said he is a Palestinian, born in Gaza so I give him the right to call people whatever he likes right now in this current situation.

I also said that he has himself been called a collaborator, I understand that he right now currently not in Gaza, so his opinions will be different from a Palestinian currently under fire in North Gaza.

I also know that he spends all day debunking Israeli Propaganda and has lost people in Gaza.

quantumbutterfly · 26/05/2025 14:27

CrackingDawn · 26/05/2025 14:18

I think referring to it as ethnic cleansing or even conducting a military campaign that may include war crimes is fair. I detest how some people on both sides weaponise language, imagery and emotion to influence opinion and garner support. It’s a cynical strategy that preys on people's empathy but ultimately undermines truth and accountability.

I believe the word you're looking for is propaganda. TBF the multibillion dollar advertising industry relies on similar strategies.

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2025 15:23

Hamas-led groups execute four for looting aid trucks amid some Gaza dissent

Hamas has executed four men for looting some of the aid trucks that have begun entering Gaza, sources familiar with the incident say, as a clan leader in southern Gaza issues a challenge to the Palestinian terror group over guarding the convoys.

One source says the four were involved in an incident last week in which six security officials were allegedly killed by an Israeli airstrike as they were working to prevent gang members from hijacking aid trucks.

“The four criminals, who were executed, were involved in the crimes of looting and causing the death of members of a force tasked with securing aid trucks,” one of the sources tells Reuters.

Hamas, which took power in Gaza by force in 2007, has long cracked down hard on signs of dissent among Palestinians in Gaza but it has faced sizable protests in recent months over the war and challenges to its control by armed groups of looters, some of whom it has punished by shooting them in the legs in public.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hamas-led-groups-execute-four-for-looting-aid-trucks-amid-some-gaza-dissent/

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AIBUHere · 26/05/2025 15:34

Whatsinanamehey · 26/05/2025 14:15

Why did the CEO resign?

Quite, why did he resign on the day the new programme was being rolled out urging Israel to use all mechanisms to provide Aid, meaning the UN and the NGOs who have already stood by while a large percentage of Aid has been misappropriated by Hamas to enable them to continue the war.

How does that help hungry Palestinians in the longer term seeing as Hamas are obviously not going to surrender?

You see in any other war arena, the side which has suffered heavy losses including most of it’s leaders, and who’s civilians, including tens of thousands of women and children (according to their own figures) were being ‘genocided and starved’ AND who knew they had no chance of winning militarily, would have surrendered by now because the point of any war being started is to protect/benefit the citizens/assets of a country.

The war Hamas started has not protected/benefitted Palestinian citizens or their assets at all. Quite the reverse. The only benefit to Hamas is a global revival of centuries old antisemitism and hatred of Jews which they have very successfully orchestrated along with their supporters and funders.

Hamas leaders have openly stated that they don’t care how many of their civilians die, they actively want them to, and they intend to carry out their original mission which is easily googleable, meaning they will never stop unless forceably dismantled/eliminated no matter how many more civilians are caught in the crossfire.

This is unprecedented in any war in modern times.

The US/Israel plan to prevent Hamas from having access to aid, and safe zones for Palestinian civilians, should surely be supported by anyone who cares about more Palestinians dying in a war zone.

SomeWomanSomewhere · 26/05/2025 18:04

AIBUHere · 26/05/2025 15:34

Quite, why did he resign on the day the new programme was being rolled out urging Israel to use all mechanisms to provide Aid, meaning the UN and the NGOs who have already stood by while a large percentage of Aid has been misappropriated by Hamas to enable them to continue the war.

How does that help hungry Palestinians in the longer term seeing as Hamas are obviously not going to surrender?

You see in any other war arena, the side which has suffered heavy losses including most of it’s leaders, and who’s civilians, including tens of thousands of women and children (according to their own figures) were being ‘genocided and starved’ AND who knew they had no chance of winning militarily, would have surrendered by now because the point of any war being started is to protect/benefit the citizens/assets of a country.

The war Hamas started has not protected/benefitted Palestinian citizens or their assets at all. Quite the reverse. The only benefit to Hamas is a global revival of centuries old antisemitism and hatred of Jews which they have very successfully orchestrated along with their supporters and funders.

Hamas leaders have openly stated that they don’t care how many of their civilians die, they actively want them to, and they intend to carry out their original mission which is easily googleable, meaning they will never stop unless forceably dismantled/eliminated no matter how many more civilians are caught in the crossfire.

This is unprecedented in any war in modern times.

The US/Israel plan to prevent Hamas from having access to aid, and safe zones for Palestinian civilians, should surely be supported by anyone who cares about more Palestinians dying in a war zone.

Stop being so disingenuous! It's honestly jarring!

Are you seriously claiming that Israel just means well by the Palestinians? When even its PM now openly states that illegally expelling them (I won't use the euphemism "ethnic cleansing" because that is a term literally invented by those who advocated for it in former Yugoslavia - the actions covered by it fall under the Geneva Conventions, Statute of Rome, and the Genocide Convention depending on details) is the official goal? When recent polls suggest genuinely shocking numbers of Israelis actually being favourable not only to expulsion but even to mass extermination?

Are you being for real?

ssd · 26/05/2025 18:46

Did anyone just see the report on ch4 news? The little 5 year old girl wandering through a burning building in Gaza in flames. It is harrowing. She has lost her brother sisters and mum. Her dad is injured. Despicable. And then a report from Jerusalem with right wing jews shouting death to Arabs and celebrating.

Yet all we read on here is how hamas want all Israeli citizens dead.

Whatsinanamehey · 26/05/2025 19:07

ssd · 26/05/2025 18:46

Did anyone just see the report on ch4 news? The little 5 year old girl wandering through a burning building in Gaza in flames. It is harrowing. She has lost her brother sisters and mum. Her dad is injured. Despicable. And then a report from Jerusalem with right wing jews shouting death to Arabs and celebrating.

Yet all we read on here is how hamas want all Israeli citizens dead.

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I did, it was heartbreaking 💔

ssd · 26/05/2025 19:24

It really was.

Twiglets1 · 26/05/2025 20:51

ssd · 26/05/2025 18:46

Did anyone just see the report on ch4 news? The little 5 year old girl wandering through a burning building in Gaza in flames. It is harrowing. She has lost her brother sisters and mum. Her dad is injured. Despicable. And then a report from Jerusalem with right wing jews shouting death to Arabs and celebrating.

Yet all we read on here is how hamas want all Israeli citizens dead.

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That’s not all we read on here… Hamas do want all Israeli citizens dead but lots of other things get written about too as your own post illustrates.

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Stripes56 · 26/05/2025 22:22

@AIBUHere

Perhaps the man did not want anything to do with the inadequate politically driven unprincipled way Netanyahu’s government wanted aid delivered? A method that all humanitarian agencies is saying is wrong.

A method that is not only about preventing Hamas and other looters from getting aid - but also corralling Palestinians into certain areas to aid the Israeli take over of the strip and mass displacement of an already vulnerable population. Who would want to aid and abet Israeli government in this?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblogentry/in-blow-to-israeli-backed-aid-effort-ceo-of-group-supposed-to-manage-it-resigns/

Stripes56 · 26/05/2025 22:39

Twiglets1 · 19/05/2025 13:19

It’s for each country to decide I guess whether they allow journalists in or not.

But the journalists want to get into Gaza - not into Israel. And it’s not Hamas that’s stopping them getting into Gaza!

Stripes56 · 26/05/2025 22:42

Twiglets1 · 20/05/2025 11:00

Those who sow violence reap violence.

Hamas soon learnt the truth of that didn’t they - to the detriment of the whole of Gaza.

And Israel will remain under its Iron Dome. Can’t see that not being needed even if all Palestinians are driven out of Gaza and West Bank..

ScrollingLeaves · 26/05/2025 22:52

Stripes56 · 26/05/2025 22:22

@AIBUHere

Perhaps the man did not want anything to do with the inadequate politically driven unprincipled way Netanyahu’s government wanted aid delivered? A method that all humanitarian agencies is saying is wrong.

A method that is not only about preventing Hamas and other looters from getting aid - but also corralling Palestinians into certain areas to aid the Israeli take over of the strip and mass displacement of an already vulnerable population. Who would want to aid and abet Israeli government in this?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblogentry/in-blow-to-israeli-backed-aid-effort-ceo-of-group-supposed-to-manage-it-resigns/

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It is basically a sort of trap. Once in the ‘rats’ won’t get out. And they’ll be biometrically tracked.

Twiglets1 · 27/05/2025 15:17

BBC: New US-backed group says it has begun aid distribution in Gaza

The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) said lorry loads of food had been delivered to secure sites and that it had begun distribution to people. It did not say where or how much aid had been handed out.

The group, which uses armed American security contractors, aims to bypass the UN as the main supplier of aid to the 2.1 million Palestinians in Gaza, where experts are warning of a looming famine after an Israeli blockade that lasted 11 weeks.

The UN and many aid groups have refused to co-operate with GHF's plans, which they say contradict humanitarian principles and appear to "weaponise aid".

Israel says a new system is needed to stop Hamas stealing aid, which the group denies doing.

In a statement sent to journalists on Monday night, GHF announced that it had "commenced operations in Gaza" and delivered "truck loads of food to its Secure Distribution Sites, where distribution to the Gazan people began".
"More trucks with aid will be delivered [on Tuesday], with the flow of aid increasing each day," it added.

Handout photos showed just over a dozen men carrying away boxes from an unspecified location.

The BBC has asked the GHF how many lorry loads of aid got in and how many people were able to pick up aid, but it has not yet received a response.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cev41em3r9lo

Handout photo from the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation showing lorries carrying humanitarian aid in Gaza (26 May 2025)

New US-backed group says it has begun aid distribution in Gaza

The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation says Palestinians have collected supplies, though the scale is unclear.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cev41em3r9lo

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Twiglets1 · 27/05/2025 15:19

From the same article:

Hamas has warned Palestinians not to co-operate with GHF's system, saying it would "replace order with chaos, enforce a policy of engineered starvation of Palestinian civilians, and use food as a weapon during wartime".

GHF's statement condemned what it said were "Hamas's death threats targeting aid groups supporting humanitarian operations at GHF's Safe Distribution Sites, and efforts to block the Gazan people from accessing aid at the sites".

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Twiglets1 · 27/05/2025 15:28

ScrollingLeaves · 26/05/2025 22:52

It is basically a sort of trap. Once in the ‘rats’ won’t get out. And they’ll be biometrically tracked.

No idea why you are comparing Palestinians seeking humanitarian aid to rats.

They will be able to leave the distribution sites; the whole idea is that they take a box of aid away with them.

And as for their data being biometrically tracked, that is true. But as this article reports, that is for a good reason: The new operation will rely on four main distribution centres in southern Gaza that will screen families for involvement with the Palestinian group Hamas, potentially using facial recognition or biometric technology, according to aid officials cited by the Reuters news agency.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/27/us-backed-group-distributes-aid-in-gaza-amid-worsening-displacement

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Twiglets1 · 27/05/2025 15:47

Reuters article today: Palestinians wary as US-backed aid group begins operations in Gaza

Palestinians voiced wariness on Tuesday toward a U.S.-backed foundation set to bring aid to Gaza amid signs of famine, with Hamas warnings about biometric screening procedures keeping many away from distribution points.

The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation said it began operations on Monday, but there was little indication of Palestinians turning up at distribution centres in southern Gaza even after almost three months of Israel blockading the enclave.

Palestinians said there was no known visits to new sites of distribution on Monday, but on Tuesday dozens headed to one of them established in Rafah to get some aid despite the warnings, at least three witnesses told Reuters.
Others stayed away.

"As much as I want to go because I am hungry and my children are hungry, I am afraid," said Abu Ahmed, 55, a father of seven. "I am so scared because they said the company belongs to Israel and is a mercenary, and also because the resistance (Hamas) said not to go," he said in a message on the chat app WhatsApp.

Israel says the Switzerland-based GHF is a U.S.-backed initiative and that its forces will not be involved in the distribution points where food will be handed out.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinians-wary-us-backed-aid-group-begins-operations-gaza-2025-05-27/

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