Little or no public debate allowed by the BBC.

[mouthpipette]

Caller to R5 live the other day mentioned that the last time the conflict in the ME was discussed on Nicky Campbell's show was March 14.
Considering there are usually 2 topics discussed and that it goes out 5 days a week, that's a lot of shows that haven't been a platform for debate about Israel/Gaza.

And it gets even worse.

BBC1 question time, and you have to go back to October 17 2024 to find a question about the ME. Since Oct 17, dozens of questions about Trump and Ukraine, but strangely Israel / Gaza doesn't feature.
Also, whilst stories about Harry or GCSE results will have a "Have your say" comments section, on the BBC news website, there are none for stories on the current conflict.
LBC not afraid to cover it and to be a platform for a discussion, the BBC obviously are.

No, I didn’t actually say that. To be clear I’m not necessarily advocating for more or less coverage of Gaza btw, I was just picking up on that particular point you made.

But I will say - you can walk and chew gum at the same time. You can do two things - or more - simultaneously.

One thing I do feel is we need more coverage of other conflicts including Sudan. There’s probably many others that don’t get a light shined on them enough but that’s the one that springs to mind for me.

As a pp pointed out there’s an entire section on the BBC News site about ‘Israel-Gaza war’. The news is there. The BBC reports a great deal on Gaza.

But there’s a news cycle. Other things are happening domestically and elsewhere in the world. Gaza will move up or down the news agenda, like all other stories.

Possibly ... I didn't actually disagree with their assertion that there are children suffering throughout the world in conflicts - which the UK also could have influence over - but the rhetoric is never about them.

What I disagreed with was your suggestion that the UK had "lax standards" on caring about Ukrainian child refugees compared to Ireland and the suggestion that maybe we "do nothing".

You don't think the UK should attempt to tackle it's own divisions first?

I have a few psychology counsellor friends who tell me they must be counselled themselves before being let loose on other people, or they are in danger of seeing situations subjectively rather than objectively.

As for multitasking, ask an educationalist about focused Vs diffuse processing and how that impacts your problem solving strategy.

Very sorry to hear about the racist abuse directed at you & your friends @Newstarters

My post wasn't just about Ukrainian refugees. I'm not sure where you got that impression from. I took that posters word for it about the rhetoric in the UK. I spoke about what I know about my country compared to what she knows about hers. I'm sorry you are offended on behalf of the UK, maybe if you agree with that poster you can join some campaigns to try and persuade the UK government to do better in future. It must be frustrating having a government that ignores these issues.

You think it's point scoring to suggest if someone is unhappy with the way their government handles things they do something about it? Yeah much better to sit on your holes that will help people.

Or was I just supposed to agree with you that nobody is doing anything, shake my head sadly and move on? I don't feel you are making much sense tbh. Change can be made. The Netherlands have gone from being staunch Israel supporters to saying they will veto any extension of the EU-Israel action plan. That's huge and can actually make a difference to children dying. Change can be made if people care enough.

The big thing missing in these ‘debates’ that the OP thinks are ‘not allowed’, although there has been nothing but the bastardisation of Israel in the media for 19 months now even though Israel was the victim of one of the worse terrorist attacks in history which is the reason for the current war, is debate on how to dismantle Hamas to Free the Palestinians in Gaza and free the remaining 59 hostages. I mean, even 59 still being held over a year and half later is a massive number of hostages for any country if you think about political hostage taking as a whole, let alone 251 which was the initial number before the rest were freed.

Why is there not debate on providing support to Israel to eliminate or bring to justice the remaining Hamas members? Maybe the US and UK could provide special forces support, or there should be more Western pressure on Egypt to open its borders to Gazan refugees so the IDF can finish Hamas off without civilians in the way? Surely we all want this war over with and it’s been going on way too long already?

Why are the only debates about how evil Israel is which is what I assume the OP wanted to see.

I tend to agree.

By ‘coverage’, ‘news’ or ‘debate’ those people fixated on Israel really mean ‘anti-Israeli, anti-Jewish rhetoric’.

There is - because there should be - much coverage of Gaza, but any clamour for more is generally to satisfy the appetite of opinions that oppose the state of Israel, and what it stands for in respect of its people and Jews around the world, altogether.

Exactly this. You clearly have lots of things to say and there appears to be no platform on the BBC for you to say them.
There are two parts to BBC coverage.
Firstly there is News and current affairs, within which knowledgeable and informed correspondents ( to a greater or lesser extent) expound their take on the situation.
Secondly there are the platforms on which the public are allowed to either have their say or to ask questions to those with power and or influence, such as Question time , Any Questions, R5 live etc. It is these that the BBC seems to have curtailed along with the HYS on it's website.

As a previous poster pointed out, there is a lot of coverage on their website, so the BBC must think that there is an appetite for the news from Gaza. However with their lack of public discussion, the BBC seems to be firmly set on "Transmit", rather than "Receive"

That’s what the BBC is for. It’s not a forum to allow people to air their views. It does include that approach and always has done. But it’s not its core purpose or even a significant one.

Thank you!

There are multiple issues in society , any government or media trying to make society better or more aware about an issue will of course be handling different issues at the same time whether that’s domestic or a mixture of domestic and society. And issues abroad can often be interlinked or impact on issues here, so it’s not necessarily easily separated into here or there.

come on now - you can spread tasks about within a given task force and each individual working to address an issue can of course organise themselves so they don’t necessarily need to be multi- tasking at an individual level.

Obviously I meant collectively we can address various issues at once and I think you knew that . This isn’t hard to understand, I don’t think you’re arguing in good faith now so I’ll stop here.

I’m pleased it’s been sidelined, I’m sick and tired of hearing about it and in my opinion there’s plenty of important things to sort out in our own country and I think the majority of the population probably feels the same.

We’ll be hearing lots about it soon when the US starts on their plans for levelling and rebuilding Gaza as a resort.

I’m pleased it’s been sidelined, I’m sick and tired of hearing about it and in my opinion there’s plenty of important things to sort out in our own country and I think the majority of the population probably feels the same. @Nutmuncher

You're sick and tired about hearing about it, yet the only post you have ever made on MN is this, on the CITME thread.

Can I presume that the rest of your day will be spent going onto other threads on which you have never posted anything, telling them how infirm and sleepy you are about the matter under discussion. Or does everything except Gaza arouse your interest ?

Sick and tired? Perhaps you should get yourself a brown bag and go and lie down.

Bizarre how you’ve come to that conclusion.

I dont believe I’ve ever checked the post history of anyone commenting on my own threads before, why exactly would you need to do that? 🤔

You were talking about walking and chewing gum at the same time, have we moved on? (I'm not likely to share responsibility for chewing gum) .

It's not unkown for people to name change between threads to stop the cross-board stalking, but name changing within threads to sock-puppet is frowned upon (and mn have put some tweaks in to stop it).

I dont believe I’ve ever checked the post history of anyone commenting on my own threads before. @Nutmuncher

Of course you haven't and that's because you haven't started any threads. It's impossible to check the post history of contributors to threads that don't exist.

Exactly, not sure what the OP is insinuating because I’ve been posting on other threads this morning. Very odd.

You’ve failed the purity test

@Nutmuncher

My apologies to you, I was wrong, you have started other threads.