Hate in Healthcare

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/australia-nurses-video-israeli-influencer-max-veifer-antisemitism/

Reading about this today. I wanted to highlight it to show how some people are emboldened to spew hate so openly. These two nurses - in uniform and open about what they do - seem gleeful in how they discuss wanting to kill Israelis. The male says he already has. The one positive - Auz authorities have dealt with this so well. We must stamp out hate when we see it.

I hope if anything like this came to light in the UK the NHS would also take swift action.

This is horrifying! The male nurse said he'd actually killed people so sacking is nowhere near enough action.

Hopefully police action and a full review of patient outcomes and care for cases where he was involved (and her). Patients need to be able to be confident they're safe when they're needing healthcare.

Australia is really appalled by this. I do think there needs to be a full and frank discussion about levels of anti-Semitism. It's been swept under the rug for far too long.

This is possibly the most alarming thing- people knowing about it and not reporting it .

One worker at the same hospital came out a few months ago raising concerns about the anti Jewish sentiment in the hospital and was targeted herself with something like 8 complaints raised against her.

That sounds very disturbing. A very thorough investigation is clearly needed.

Thus nurse did tty and warn against the general sentiment and ended up with complaints against her.
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/set-up-familys-huge-claim-about-sydney-nurse-caught-in-vile-antisemitic-rant/news-story/7891b8dd0a5e102609542773807292c8

Then it’s a much much bigger problem.

I wasn’t referring to the “projecting” comment but I can see why you objected to it.

I was pointing out that Muslims are visibly well represented in the healthcare system and that should mean they hopefully feel safer.
That’s not the case for Jewish patients who are in smaller numbers.
Obviously any kind of discrimination ( particularly in a health care setting) is wrong.

Truly disgusting. It sounds like it has been dealt with effectively, but obviously should never have happened. Racism and discrimination must be rooted out within any health system.

@MissTrip82 Their actions are disgusting. They have been de-registered and cannot practice, which is exactly what should happen

Unless something has changed within a day, I don’t think that’s right. They are banned from working within NSW Health. That’s all at this point. As of yesterday, their AHPRA reg’s were still valid and doesn’t look like they will be pulled.

So we can all look forward to them working in any other State/Territory system, or they can work in any private hospital in NSW or any other State/Territory. My guess is no public/private system will touch them due to publicity and they will end up in an Aged Care facility as they will literally take Jack the Ripper they are so short staffed. Scary stuff indeed.

It’s not just Health, in Sydney there are car firebombing, business firebombing (a childcare centre was recently hit after hours and burned down) near daily now, along with anti-semetic graffiti. All in neighbourhoods with high Jewish populations and all against Jewish property. It all started after the Australian government said it stood against Israel recently. That opened the floodgates for every anti-semetic crackpot to climb out from under the woodwork.

@HoppingPavlova I've been reading about the huge increase in these attacks. Horrifying and yes these vicious people feel they have a green light to show their true feelings.

Remember when Jess Phillips boasted that she got preferential treatment in an NHS hospital because a Palestinian doctor approved of her vote in favour of a Gaza ceasefire? The fact that it happened is chilling and the fact that Jess Phillips had no problem with it happening is indicative of a certain mindset.

I keep seeing outrage that the Israelis have detained Palestinian medical staff. I have no idea about the rights and wrongs of individual cases but it needs bearing in mind that being a medical professional does not automatically confer sainthood on a person. There are doctors who have done terrible things, particularly in wartime.

People have strong feelings about Palestine.For some,.outrage over Palestine is a cover for anti'semitism
"History does not repeat itself
But sometimes it rhymes"
Mark Twain

@EsmaCannonball I've just googled that I had no idea!

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jess-phillips-claims-quicker-nhs-29839750

This is completely shocking! Political views ensured speedier and more caring treatment access?! Hugely upsetting. The Jewish community who are tiny in this country must feel so vulnerable. It is outrageous.

I wonder to what extent a minority of health care workers have become emboldened in their anti semitism through the mass marches through the capital and a perceived general support of the palestinian 'cause' especially amongst the naieve young?

It is a slippery slopw from earnest support of the Palestinian people to advocate a ring 'resistance' to being prepared to harbour anti Semitic views on the work place as part of this resistance.

I would think trusts would want to cover up a lot of bro Semitic remarks by staff for her of causing volatile staff relations. It may be that trusts are leniant on this form of discrimination as long as patients aren't harmed or it is made public.

I don’t think the DPP will proceed with this and they’ll get away with it.

@Galdownunder it happened in Australia and they've taken very swift action. I was pondering what would happen if it was here. I would hope the same.

I’m in Australia and they haven’t taken swift action at all. They haven’t been interviewed by police, they lost their jobs but that’s pretty much it. I think they even still have their APRHA registration so can work elsewhere.

@Galdownunder thank you for letting us know.

I read they were to be charged with a commonwealth offence Is that not what you've read? Could you keep us updated please as you no doubt know more.

I'll just post this from an article in The Spectator on the issue:

Palestinian doctors have a troubling history, for example. Waleed Mustafa, a Palestinian doctor and Hamas commander, used his medical credentials to plan terror attacks. Similarly, Dr Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi, a paediatrician, co-founded Hamas. Dr Fathi Shaqaqi, a physician by training, co-founded the Palestinian Islamic Jihad in 1981, which under his leadership orchestrated numerous attacks against Israeli targets. Last December, Israeli forces arrested Dr Hussam Abu Safiya, the director of Kamal-Adwan hospital in northern Gaza, accusing him of being a Hamas operative and using the hospital to shield terrorist activities. Dr Mahmoud Abu Nujaila, an employee of Médecins Sans Frontières since 2020, was found to have expressed support for the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and terrorist activities on social media.

It is not only in conflict zones that such hatred manifests. In Pakistan, in 2024, a Muslim doctor at the Civil Hospital of Sahiwal in Punjab told Yousaf Masih Gill that he would not treat his father: ‘had I known he was Christian, I would not have touched him,’ he said.

The Australian case feels especially terrifying because it confronts a cultural reality often ignored. In some corners of the Middle East and beyond, the dehumanisation of Jews is commonplace – taught in schools, broadcast on television, and preached from podiums. When individuals raised in such an environment become doctors or nurses, is it truly shocking that some carry those hatreds with them into their professional lives?

If the discussion of culturally or religiously inspired medical malpractice feels uncomfortable and politically incorrect, it may feel even more so to point out that Israelis, by contrast, are renowned for upholding medical ethics even when treating their enemies. Consider the case of Yahya Sinwar, the Hamas leader responsible for orchestrating countless terrorist attacks. In 2004, he was saved by Israeli surgeons who removed his brain tumour while he was an Israeli prisoner. During the 2014 Gaza War, Ismail Haniyeh’s granddaughter was treated in an Israeli hospital. The contrast is stark: Israelis routinely uphold the value of life – even the lives of those sworn to destroy them.