How Do You Think the Current Israel-Hamas Conflict Will End?

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Hopes? Fears?

Is there any hope for a two-state solution?

Is there a future for Israel? Where do the Israelis go if there isn't?

Is there a future for a Palestinian State? Where do the Palestinians go if there isn't?

How do you see Israeli / Palestinian relations developing over the next few decades, is there a path to peace?

What do you think?

I still hope for a two-state solution, but that depends on disbanding Hamas, Hezbollah, and the rest, which seems unlikely.

My fear is that ultimately ‘world opinion’ will turn further against Israel and I don’t know what happens to their population if Israel does not continue to exist.

There will soon be no population left in Palestine if Israel carries on as they are doing.

Palestine will be obliterated. 😞
Expensive real estate build on the graves of those murdered.

By the time a solution is found they will all be blind with their eye for an eye policy that operates in the region

That's not unique to the region. Would you be able to forgive and forget if members of your family were maimed and killed? Your home and town destroyed and starvation being imposed on you?

Define Palestine?

My guess:

Israel will destroy much of the rest of Gaza and south Lebanon, imposing new buffer zones, and possibly long term occupations (as it had in the past). Hamas might be declared "beaten", while Hebollah will remain in Lebanon. In 10 years time we'll have another regional war with successor organisations.

In the very long run, 100 years say, either Israel will piecemeal colonise the rest of Palestine or a settlement will be made.

I think eventually a ceasefire will occur, hostages will be returned (eventually). The UAE and Saudi will fund rebuilding and security and the Palestinians will find that they are now under Saudi influence rather than Iranian which tbh will be better for them. I think there will be enhanced financial controls so militias like hamas can no longer divert aid to themselves.

I think any agreement will be contingent on Israel believing they can massively reduce the chances of another 7th October. Despite the nutcases in the Israeli parliament, I doubt there is appetite for a long term occupation of either Gaza or Lebanon. War and occupation is costly, it would only be done for security reasons.

Hezbollah is different but I sincerely hope for the sake of the Lebanese that they are massively diminished (given that the majority of Lebanese don’t like them I think they are hoping so too). In the long term I hope they are able to reduce Iranian influence over their territory. There was a joke going around “the Iranians will fight to the last Lebanese” which tells you a lot. I do think if they can diminish Hezb in the long term Lebanon and Israel will come to a border agreement which will exclude the UN.

I sincerely hope that both sides see the value in a two state solution for the sakes of both Israelis and Palestinians.

Agree with this. Regarding the OP, we need to distinguish between a ceasefire in this present war, which is a short-term goal, and a two-state solution, which is a long-term goal.

Realistically the biggest hurdle to a ceasefire in Gaza right now is the question of what happens afterwards. Israel isn't willing to leave Gaza until Hamas is no longer in charge. Hamas isn't willing to stand down or to accept an Israeli military presence in Gaza. Hence the standoff, in which the hostages are simply pawns.

A ceasefire is urgently needed. It's important to get the negotiations right because we need to break the cycle of violence and start to build the future. None of the Western and Gulf states are going to invest significantly in rebuilding Gaza if they think that we're going to have another war in a year or two. By the way according to the most recent polls, 73% of Israelis are in favour of a hostage-ceasefire deal and only 14% are against (13% did not express an opinion).

Israel urgently needs regime change, to break out of the Netanyahu years, to solidify the democratic institutions eroded by successive Netanyahu governments and to diminish the outsized influence of the far right who have achieved political influence far greater than their numbers because of Israel's proportional representation which means Netanyahu relies on them to keep his government afloat.

Elections will almost certainly occur within the next couple of years; the government has a fixed term but may well be brought down before that by one or other of the coalition partners leaving. At the moment the latest polls give Netanyahu's coalition 52 seats compared to 68 for the anti-Netanyahu bloc. Netanyahu is now 75 years old so his political future is eventually limited. Yes there are other right-wing populist politicians on the horizon, but they don't have his political skills and experience.

For a two-state solution, both sides need to be convinced that it's more in their interests to compromise than to maintain the status quo, and will need skilful and pragmatic leaders to negotiate the deal.

Israel will murder much of Palestine and south Lebanon.

Israel will attempt occupation/settlement of the Gaza strip and create a buffer zone in South Lebanon.

Hamas will reinvent itself. Hezbollah will remain. More attacks on Jewish communities globally, more attempted attacks on Israel. 24/7 vigilance is the price Israel will pay and the cost they have imposed to Jewish communities worldwide. The Middle East will not forget.

Potential attacks in the US given they will also be perceived as to blame given they are funding the war.

Iran will be plotting with their backers on how to blindside Israel. The time will come, we just don't know when.

Israel, and unfortunately by extension the Jewish community, will never be at peace. A horrible, terrible genocide has been committed with no shame, no apology, and in plain sight of the world. A truly wicked people (those involved, not all Israelis).

The state of Palestine is recognised by 146 members of the UN.
What did you have in mind?

I agree

I sincerely hope so too.

I think it’s hard to look at the human cost of war and be optimistic. But it’s been done before and it can be done again. People over centuries have put their personal grief aside to make peace. As they say, you don’t make peace with your friends, you make peace with your enemies.

Many more vulnerable innocent people and easy proxy targets of bigger powers will die. The big wigs will eventually get bored of living out their fantasy of Axis and Allies, with real people as board pieces.

Look it up

I’ve just broke down in tears listening to an Isreali spokesman and America in the UN .I can’t believe the world is just watching an entire nation be killed right in front of our eyes. Holding back every nation that dares defend the Palestinians, and allowing Israel to extend its murderous campaign. How is the west complicit in this? I don’t know how they stand and talk so calmly in defence knowing so many are dying and sleep at night? And now they are going to starve them affectively by banning UNRWA .

are they expecting us to turn blind eyes when Israel starts building on the graves and blood of millions of people. I know that’s what is going to happen, I seen an Isreali tour on the sea to watch Gaza being bombed. The tour guide talking about how this will be their land..Im so so sickened by the whole thing. I don’t feel proud of Britains stance at all.

I think probably because they aren’t nations, they are non state actors that are basically holding their own people hostage. Hezb, Houthis (this lot really are vile by the way if you bother reading about them, 18000 child soldiers which they regularly used as cannon fodder, as young as 10, regularly raised villages to the ground in Yemen and want to bring back an imamate). Iran is a nation but is responsible for this mess in the first place and busy killing it’s own people. You need to stop supporting militias.

This is the unfortunate consequence of starting wars. Hopefully it will end soon and Gaza can be rebuilt and aid can move in freely. It is the ugly reality of warmongering. No war has ever spared civilians.

Israel becomes even more of a pariah state except in the US. It’s already PnG in many international fora.

When will we learn, war never works.

Ugh, you again.

Back atcha 😊

Israel is not a pariah state and while I think they are being too aggressive now, I always remember who started this current conflict. It wasn’t Israel.