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Conflict in the Middle East

I just want to tell you about the beauty of Lebanon

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nightmarepickle2025 · 12/10/2024 11:56

I think many people in the West think of the Middle East as somehow "other". So I just wanted to tell you a bit about Lebanon, which I've visited as a tourist a few times.

Beirut is a party town, with beach clubs lining the coast. The Corniche in the centre is a gorgeous promenade where people meet to walk, chat, court.

In the hills surrounding Beirut there are amazing vineyards with restaurants serving delicious food. There's a ski resort up in the north, though I think the chair lifts might date from before the civil war --

And the country still bears the scars of that civil war - burnt out, bullet hole ridden buildings, in between billion dollar redevelopments.

The roads are a mess, ridden with potholes, a problem for all the super cars speeding round them driven by the super rich, for whom Lebanon is a playground As a historically Christian country it's far more liberal than it's neighbours, hence the rest of the region go there to drink and party.

Out to the East, Baalbek is an almost completely rebuilt Roman city that defies belief, like travelling in a time machine.

And the countryside is full of tents - because Lebanon has one of the biggest refugee populations in the world, of Palestinians and Syrians.

It's a beautiful, but fragile place that has already rebuilt itself from a 15 year civil war and looks like it's about to be destroyed again. Which is a tragedy.

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Jessie1259 · 12/10/2024 12:08

So sad OP, I've watched travel vlogs on Lebanon and thought that it looked like a really interesting place to visit. Baalbek looks absolutely stunning. After all the people there have been through with the civil war and the explosion in the port and now this, it's so awful.

I travelled solo through Jordan and it was one of my most memorable trips, I'd love to go back to the middle east and explore more, I just hope peace retunrs soon for the people living there.

MrsSkylerWhite · 12/10/2024 12:11

Friends lived in Beirut in the 90s but were forced to leave. They were incredibly sad about it, had loved the country and their life there.

Pebbles16 · 12/10/2024 12:29

I agree. We visited in October 2022 and were amazed at its beauty, history and people.

Elmo230885 · 12/10/2024 12:42

I agree. I was lucky enough to visit Beiruit around 9 years ago. Its a beautiful city with wonderful people that were so keen to show their homeland with a sense of optimism. The juxtaposition of new, modern buildings with older scarred buildings whilst standing in one spot is eye opening.
It's so very sad to see and hear about the current destruction.

MissyB1 · 12/10/2024 12:43

So sad it now has to face more destruction, the people do not deserve this 🙁

Jellybeanbag · 12/10/2024 13:57

Thank you for this, very interesting.

So sad to see what is happening in the Middle East.

The poor civilians always suffer the most.

Auvergne63 · 12/10/2024 15:01

When I was studying in Paris, I became friend with a Lebanese medical student.
We spent many nights discussing Lebanon. Her love for her country shone trough her words. She couldn't wait to finish her studies and get back home to help her people, as she used to say.
We lost touch when she left Paris for Beirut.
I hope she is ok. I really do.

FunkyDancer · 12/10/2024 17:25

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Moglet4 · 12/10/2024 18:57

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What an awful post, on so many levels.

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ScrollingLeaves · 12/10/2024 22:55

nightmarepickle2025 · 12/10/2024 11:56

I think many people in the West think of the Middle East as somehow "other". So I just wanted to tell you a bit about Lebanon, which I've visited as a tourist a few times.

Beirut is a party town, with beach clubs lining the coast. The Corniche in the centre is a gorgeous promenade where people meet to walk, chat, court.

In the hills surrounding Beirut there are amazing vineyards with restaurants serving delicious food. There's a ski resort up in the north, though I think the chair lifts might date from before the civil war --

And the country still bears the scars of that civil war - burnt out, bullet hole ridden buildings, in between billion dollar redevelopments.

The roads are a mess, ridden with potholes, a problem for all the super cars speeding round them driven by the super rich, for whom Lebanon is a playground As a historically Christian country it's far more liberal than it's neighbours, hence the rest of the region go there to drink and party.

Out to the East, Baalbek is an almost completely rebuilt Roman city that defies belief, like travelling in a time machine.

And the countryside is full of tents - because Lebanon has one of the biggest refugee populations in the world, of Palestinians and Syrians.

It's a beautiful, but fragile place that has already rebuilt itself from a 15 year civil war and looks like it's about to be destroyed again. Which is a tragedy.

Thank you for your description.

It looks very beautiful.
Even the words “cedars of Lenanon” sound lovely.

Moglet4 · 12/10/2024 23:27

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  1. your simplification of the whole awful and complex situation into black and white, evil and good
  2. your choice of words - ‘has had to’ specifically - lots of what Israel has done they absolutely have not ‘had’ to do. I actually feel quite sick at your assertion that everything Israel has done was necessary.
  3. your callousness with regard to the original poster. They wanted a largely positive post, celebrating the beauty and resilience of the country they love, to educate people who might think it’s just a bombed out ruin. You just spat all over that and completely changed the tone.
Hunglikeapolevaulter · 12/10/2024 23:38

Lebanon is indeed a beautiful country. It does though unfortunately have a bit of a Hezbollah problem, and has also been turning rapidly into a failed state.

ScrollingLeaves · 12/10/2024 23:47

Did anyone see the wonderful Lebanese film, Caramel? 2008

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caramel_(film)

FunkyDancer · 13/10/2024 00:51

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I answered the only question that mattered which is why was your post awful? I will not answer the rest because of the assumptions you imply and the fact that you clearly see the situation in the ME in black and white when in reality, it’s grey so it would just be a waste of my time. All I will say is this. Of course Israel had the right to respond to Hamas and Hezbollah. However, they lost the moral high ground in Gaza months ago and it looks like they may be about to do the same in Lebanon (they’ve already broken international law in the first few days).

OP, I apologise for the derail. I do appreciate what you were trying to do.

ScrollingLeaves · 13/10/2024 14:30

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This thread is in the ‘Conflict in the Middle East’ board…..
but was about the beauty of Lebanon.

There are specific threads about the Hezbollah/Israel/Lenanon attacks and war where your points could more easily be discussed in the context of various other related points and arguments.

FunkyDancer · 13/10/2024 15:51

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itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 13:15

This is just heartbreaking. So many beautiful cities and so much culture and history will be lost forever

LeoOakley · 14/10/2024 13:38

Beirut is one of my favourite cities. Utterly beguiling and visually, one of the most fascinating places I've visited. I am desperately sad and very troubled that Lebanon is under attack again.

ScrollingLeaves · 14/10/2024 13:42

LeoOakley · 14/10/2024 13:38

Beirut is one of my favourite cities. Utterly beguiling and visually, one of the most fascinating places I've visited. I am desperately sad and very troubled that Lebanon is under attack again.

Were you there just visiting, or did you live there? I wish I had been.

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