talking and listening to each other - and staying with it

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I think this is worth reading- and trying to stay open to really listening.
The killing, endles cycles of violence, terror and pain has to stop. Trying to relate to what is said and felt by the other (however hard) is the hope available to us as humans.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/13/israel-palestine-7-october-gaza-orna-guralnik#:~:text=Orna%20Guralnik%20and%20Christine,with%20her%20partner%2C%20is%20Palestinian.

Thank you for posting this. It provided a challenging, fascinating and valuable insight into the complexities of the situation and the work that needs to be done and can be done by humans willing to reach across the divide from their entrenched positions.

Finally got to the end of this.
It was a very insightful read thanks for sharing. A lot of the themes discussed are similar to the back and forth on these threads. Two friends discussing these themes face to face struggled hugely with it so it is no wonder threads on here deteriorate so rapidly, especially when the mutual respect isn't present.

Although there was deep respect for one another there was no resolution which was a shame but despite that their friendship has endured. Reading their comments I do believe a 2ss is the only realistic option for peace in the region based on mutual respect. Both communities are deeply traumatised and you can never underestimate the impact trauma has on a person's psyche.

I agree with you both. I think the lack of resolution is an important reality. The trauma is there and is continually reenacted and exacerbated.

The conversation between these two impressive women, and others like them (or us) needs to be ongoing, and to bear the lack of resolution.

There is so much pain, cruelty and entrenched dehumanisation in the backstories of all involved. The hope is that with time, if both really try to stay with, and believe the other’s experience and perspective, the conversation can twist and turn and slowly change can happen.