Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Conflict in the Middle East

Where are the Arab states calls Muhamm Al Ejlad Adel Allibrahim

8 replies

YoYoYoYo12345 · 25/09/2024 12:29

Just watched a news report on Al Jazerra.

A normal man, a University student. He called out the the Arab states and to all who care about humanity that the conflict is about to enter its second year with so many dead.

I hope that negotiations are able to work quickly towards a peaceful ceasefire and release of hostages.

I felt so sad for him and the situation.

I also felt that I could understand why other Arab states might avoid being drawn in. Some have made peace with Israel and don't want conflict in their own country.

It seems that military support for Hamas continues from other terrorist organisations only (Hezbollah for example) or the Houthis earlier in the year with attacks on ships. If they weren't involved would the conflict de-escalate quicker?

Is there any other organisations with power over hamas or Hezbollah who might press then to consider their people? Countries are putting pressure on Israel and the UN also pushing for a ceasefire.

Without both the terrorists and Netanyahu listening then the second year seems inevitable. Its all so awful for the innocents on both sides.

OP posts:
YoYoYoYo12345 · 25/09/2024 12:31

My typo for the man's name cannot be changed. Apologies its Muhammad.

OP posts:
Kindatired · 25/09/2024 16:55

Channels were open with the government of Qatar, but will the relationships survive the loss of key leadership figures? Personal relationships are key to this type of behind the scenes negotiations.
I think there’s a big downside of taking out the leadership of Hamas and Hezbolleh. There’s still lots of money in the terrorist industry and the associated side hustles of extortion etc as it were, there’s an appetite for revenge and now there will be jockeying for hearts and minds, each potential leader or rival militant group promising more damage to Israel.

It’s really unlikely that forced displacement, blowing up the neighbours kids etc will encourage any new leaders down the path towards peace. A pause, a cease fire, release of a few hostages,something tangible is needed in addition to indirect mediation and there’s no progress in that regard

EasterIssland · 25/09/2024 17:12

I was going to say that I believe Qatar had been involved and was doing as the mediator as well pushing for the ceasefire agreements.

MushMonster · 25/09/2024 18:22

I think it would have reached the ceasefire point if the shooting around of rockets had stopped. At least Blinken and Qatar (and I believe Egypt too?) keep trying. Netanyahu keeps resisting, but without further reasons to give, I think USA could force him into a ceasefire.
I also strongly agree with te PP that says there is money to be had in terrorism. It becomes a way of life for some of these guys, which have no morals, whatsoever. It starts as a resistant movement, then fails to move with the change in circumstances, fails to grasp opportunities for peace, then enters the top killing, total senseless stage, till civilians stand up and say that was it, that was enough.
This is what I have learnt from the terrorism in my country of origin, Spain and ETA. ETA fought against a fully democratic Estate where their part of the country had a parlament and full rights, for more than 20 years, during which they killed police, bombed police accomodation- including families with children, kidnapped business people for large amounts of money, kidnapped regular citizens as punishment to the collective- keeping them in horrible horrible conditions, executed young nembers of political parties, placed a bomb in a shopping centre killing over 300 random innocent citizens..... It started as a militia movement resisting the oppression, jailing and execution of their nationals under a fascist dictatorship, which killed them for speaking and writing in their native language and refusing to bow down to the dictatorship. Quite the change, isn't it?

See Lebanon and Hezbolah. Lebanon is in such a dear financial situation. Yet, all these rockets must cost quite a lot. If Hezbolah is meant to protect Lebanon, maybe they should avoid shooting rockets towards Israel- they did this before the attrocies in Gaza, not only after....

All the political and armed parties in this conflict need to leave (preferably to jail for life); they are clearly useless and, furthermore, extremely dangerous to their people. That is for Hamas, Hezbolah and Israel. Iran needs to mind their own business, which they have plenty of to worry about. Many of their own people fiercely opposes the Islamic Republic, so they really should be focusing on being nicer to the iranian people.

Today, I am really concerned about Israel going into Lebanon on the ground. Rockets is bad enough, it needs to stop, both ways. But a ground offensive? That is terrifying, seeing how Gaza looks today.

All these deaths only fuel the hate among them further, feeding into the terrorists recruitment pond; more combatants, more weapons, bigger attacks, more deaths....

MushMonster · 25/09/2024 18:25

I actually thought that the days of strike and massive demonstrations in Israel will bring Netanyahu down and there would be an opportunity for fresh will in the ceasefire negotiation table.
And the ceasefire needs to translate into a full Forever Peace agreement to which they finally stick to. The final one. Just wishing....

YoYoYoYo12345 · 25/09/2024 19:10

MushMonster · 25/09/2024 18:22

I think it would have reached the ceasefire point if the shooting around of rockets had stopped. At least Blinken and Qatar (and I believe Egypt too?) keep trying. Netanyahu keeps resisting, but without further reasons to give, I think USA could force him into a ceasefire.
I also strongly agree with te PP that says there is money to be had in terrorism. It becomes a way of life for some of these guys, which have no morals, whatsoever. It starts as a resistant movement, then fails to move with the change in circumstances, fails to grasp opportunities for peace, then enters the top killing, total senseless stage, till civilians stand up and say that was it, that was enough.
This is what I have learnt from the terrorism in my country of origin, Spain and ETA. ETA fought against a fully democratic Estate where their part of the country had a parlament and full rights, for more than 20 years, during which they killed police, bombed police accomodation- including families with children, kidnapped business people for large amounts of money, kidnapped regular citizens as punishment to the collective- keeping them in horrible horrible conditions, executed young nembers of political parties, placed a bomb in a shopping centre killing over 300 random innocent citizens..... It started as a militia movement resisting the oppression, jailing and execution of their nationals under a fascist dictatorship, which killed them for speaking and writing in their native language and refusing to bow down to the dictatorship. Quite the change, isn't it?

See Lebanon and Hezbolah. Lebanon is in such a dear financial situation. Yet, all these rockets must cost quite a lot. If Hezbolah is meant to protect Lebanon, maybe they should avoid shooting rockets towards Israel- they did this before the attrocies in Gaza, not only after....

All the political and armed parties in this conflict need to leave (preferably to jail for life); they are clearly useless and, furthermore, extremely dangerous to their people. That is for Hamas, Hezbolah and Israel. Iran needs to mind their own business, which they have plenty of to worry about. Many of their own people fiercely opposes the Islamic Republic, so they really should be focusing on being nicer to the iranian people.

Today, I am really concerned about Israel going into Lebanon on the ground. Rockets is bad enough, it needs to stop, both ways. But a ground offensive? That is terrifying, seeing how Gaza looks today.

All these deaths only fuel the hate among them further, feeding into the terrorists recruitment pond; more combatants, more weapons, bigger attacks, more deaths....

Good points.

OP posts:
YoYoYoYo12345 · 25/09/2024 19:11

I think everyone on here wants peace for all.

OP posts:
MushMonster · 25/09/2024 19:50

Indeed.
The only ones who do not want peace are the actively involved, who keep repeating this empty phrase " we do not want a war ....", but then keep igniting one.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread