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Conflict in the Middle East

Sudan conflict

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Mushroomsouptonight · 20/03/2024 08:00

Save the children appeal is for help with starving in Sudan due to the conflict.
They give children a pouch of 500 calorie peanut puree, which helps with quick suitable help. Please help with donations to save the children if you are able to.

The conflicts in the middle east in Sudan, Gaza and Yeman has left millions in the region suffering from starvation.

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Mushroomsouptonight · 20/03/2024 08:04

Nearly 18,000,000 people suffering starvation in Sudan.

The middle east countries of Sudan, Yenan and the war in Gaza has resulted in millions suffering. https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/wfp-receiving-reports-people-dying-starvation-sudan-2024-02-02/

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Guavafish1 · 20/03/2024 08:11

Gaza intentation starvation is inflicted by the Isrealis and Americans. Its a lie to think anything else. After bombardment, ground assault, firing and now starvation. The regional countries surrounding the conflict are also complicit.

Sudan situation is similar; two waring parties leading to millions of people displaced and starvation.

GriseldaBlanco · 20/03/2024 08:21

Sudan is in Africa, it isn't part of the ME

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Mushroomsouptonight · 20/03/2024 08:50

'By the mid-20th century a common definition of the Middle East encompassed the states or territories of Turkey, Cyprus, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, Jordan, Egypt, Sudan, Libya, and the various states and territories of Arabia proper (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Yemen, Oman, Bahrain, Qatar, and the Trucial States, or Trucial Oman [now United Arab Emirates]).'

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GriseldaBlanco · 20/03/2024 09:19

Mushroomsouptonight · 20/03/2024 08:48

It has been recognised as part of the middle east for many years now.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Middle-East

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recognised by who? it is part of the modern conflict. alot of the violence is ethnically targeted. the RSF work to promote the expansion of Arabisation and eliminate Africans

Mushroomsouptonight · 20/03/2024 13:57

GriseldaBlanco · 20/03/2024 09:19

recognised by who? it is part of the modern conflict. alot of the violence is ethnically targeted. the RSF work to promote the expansion of Arabisation and eliminate Africans

Did you actually read the linked information. It's recognised as part of the middle east by a very large number of countries.

What's your point. They are starving and you don't think they should be helped. Stop nit picking and either help the starving countries of the middle East or scroll on by.

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Mushroomsouptonight · 20/03/2024 13:59

Scirocco · 20/03/2024 09:07

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-68606201

Content warning for accounts of physical and sexual violence.

I know it's awful. The world's largest hunger crisis. Then you have the people of Gaza starving and the people of Yeman starving. It's awful. Bearing in mind the wealth in lots of countries around the world, and in the middle east nearby countries it's appalling that so many are starving.

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Mushroomsouptonight · 20/03/2024 14:02

GriseldaBlanco · 20/03/2024 09:19

recognised by who? it is part of the modern conflict. alot of the violence is ethnically targeted. the RSF work to promote the expansion of Arabisation and eliminate Africans

I'm.not getting into politics or Arabs or Africans just wanted to focus on the starving.

There are a number of charities that are helping. Donate if you are able to.

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GriseldaBlanco · 20/03/2024 14:14

Mushroomsouptonight · 20/03/2024 14:02

I'm.not getting into politics or Arabs or Africans just wanted to focus on the starving.

There are a number of charities that are helping. Donate if you are able to.

you can't 'not get into the politics of it' whilst declaring Sudan is part of the ME...and being outraged at the starvation. it's like the USA dropping aid to Palestine whilst supplying weapons to Israel.

my family are Nilotic and it's important

Mushroomsouptonight · 20/03/2024 15:25

"1 child is dying every 2 hours in the refugee camp in North Dafur." and

"The people of Sudan are being failed."

That was today the UN Security Council statement.

18 million Sudanese facing food insecurity.

Needs putting higher on the agenda.

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Mushroomsouptonight · 20/03/2024 15:28

GriseldaBlanco · 20/03/2024 14:14

you can't 'not get into the politics of it' whilst declaring Sudan is part of the ME...and being outraged at the starvation. it's like the USA dropping aid to Palestine whilst supplying weapons to Israel.

my family are Nilotic and it's important

I can be outraged at the starving people of Sudan. I can be outraged that a child is dying in the refugee camp in North Dafur every 2 hours. Of course I can be outraged.

Understanding the politics and what different countries refer to as The Middle East doesn't stop children starving. I am donating money and attempting in my very tiny way to hope others will not look away and also donate.

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Mushroomsouptonight · 20/03/2024 15:32

As Nilotic @GriseldaBlanco you understand the politics. I don't.

As a human with compassion I am allowed to be concerned about starving people regardless of the politics. Even Al Jazerra described the Sudan famine as on the Middle East. I'm think urgency means help the starving first.

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GriseldaBlanco · 20/03/2024 15:45

I only told you that Sudan is part of Africa and not the ME. and then when you wouldn't accept that, I briefly explained the importance of recognising it

Mushroomsouptonight · 20/03/2024 15:49

GriseldaBlanco · 20/03/2024 15:45

I only told you that Sudan is part of Africa and not the ME. and then when you wouldn't accept that, I briefly explained the importance of recognising it

I apologise if I came over as rude. I didn't intend to. Many, many, countries describe Sudan as being in the Middle East along with Yeman and other countries. You don't accept them describing Sudan as in the Middle East.

In any event, in my humble opinion at this moment in time starving people need help. They just need food and more light on their suffering.

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Mushroomsouptonight · 20/03/2024 20:40

I don't recall so many different countries having famine or close to famine all at once before. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

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MushMonster · 17/05/2024 17:31

Hi @Mushroomsouptonight thanks for posting about Sudan.
I feel so sorry for all these civilians. On top of the brutality, they seem to be fully ignored by the news here in UK. I have seen very very little cover on this. So much that I only found that the delivery of aid is being blocked in this war too yesterday, from an Editorial Letter in the Guardian.
I have donated my charity money this month to Sudan via Unicef.
Really praying for this madness to end soon.

MushMonster · 17/05/2024 17:34

To your statement that you have not seen things as bad before, I have. Long time ago, when I was a child. I think the numbers are larger, possibly the population has increased exponentially, but I do remember the pictures of starved children in Sudan (and Ethiopia) burned in my memory. I was around their same age when I first remember seeing those.

MushMonster · 17/05/2024 17:37

And bless you for caring enough to donate and start a thread. Though it has not gone that well so far, I did find it via google, trying to find out if there is anyone thinking about these people. This thread is one of very few that appeared under mumsnet.....
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Scirocco · 17/05/2024 18:21

@MushMonster the international Muslim community has a lot of charitable projects for Sudan, Yemen and others. Organisations such as Islamic Relief have ongoing appeals to support their work there.

MushMonster · 17/05/2024 18:49

Hi @Scirocco I have donated via Unicef, thanks.
I tried Red Cross as it is my most trusted, but they did not have anything showing in their website for Sudan.

Scirocco · 17/05/2024 19:05

Unicef is a good charity to donate to - innocent children are losing their lives and their childhoods, and so many people turn away and ignore it.

SharonEllis · 17/05/2024 19:35

GriseldaBlanco · 20/03/2024 15:45

I only told you that Sudan is part of Africa and not the ME. and then when you wouldn't accept that, I briefly explained the importance of recognising it

I do know a very little about the politics and while it is deeply contested it is surely correct to say that Sudan is considered part of the ME by some? The fact that they do & that some resist it, of course reflect the roots of conflict. The point being to draw attention to the human impact of another dreadful conflict in the world and perhaps your add some perspective to those who exceptionalise Gaza to such an extent, as if it is the only/worst humanitarian conflict of recent times. I really really don't want to get into a tragedy Olympics but I've always been deeply concerned about how hard it is to get people to care about Africa & Africans so I'm not going to knock it when people do.

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