Palestinian citizen of Israel granted UK asylum in case said to be unprecedented

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I notice the Home Office dropped their opposition to prevent a precedent being established (despite the headlines suggestion otherwise. Modern journalism etc etc)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/12/palestinian-citizen-of-israel-granted-asylum-in-uk-in-case-said-to-be-unprecedented#

I don’t really understand this. ‘Hasan’ is a Palestinian Israeli citizen, with Israeli citizenship and passport who, according to the article, has spent most of his life in the UK. So must also have UK citizenship/leave to remain? Why would he need to claim asylum? Was he being sent to Israel? The article is very unclear.

The UK has signalled it is quite willing to strip UK citizenship from people it doesn't like and then ship them goodness knows where. Being born in the UK and having UK citizenship isn't enough anymore.

It's also demonstrated a willingness to overrule reality with parliamentary proclamations.

Putting those two facts together, anyone who has the remotest chance of being a citizen of another country would be well advised to claim asylum in advance of finding themselves being (possibly literally) parachuted into a "safe" country.

Presumably, his U.K. visa ran out and wasn’t renewed and he’d been asked to leave the U.K. but then applied as an asylum seeker for a refugee visa.

He wouldn’t have needed to go to court for a refugee visa if he had indefinite leave to remain or British citizenship. So he must have been subject to U.K. immigration and his visa must have expired.

“The UK has signalled it is quite willing to strip UK citizenship from people it doesn't like and then ship them goodness knows where. Being born in the UK and having UK citizenship isn't enough anymore.”

Thats an overstatement. It takes a lot to be stripped of British citizenship.

“Putting those two facts together, anyone who has the remotest chance of being a citizen of another country would be well advised to claim asylum in advance of finding themselves being (possibly literally) parachuted into a "safe" country.”

Don’t be ridiculous, I’m a triple citizen although born in the U.K./British by birth and I see no need to claim asylum to stay here. This is fear mongering towards anyone who has more than one nationality.

But if you committed a crime then that could be an option for the uk- make you an issue for one of the countries to deal with.
I don’t agree with it. It is dangerous.

Thanks. Can someone spend most of their life in the UK on a visa? The article doesn’t say what his UK citizenship status was, if he was actually being sent back to Israel, and if so, what prompted this. I think these are fairly vital bits of information needed if the article isn’t to be viewed as a bit sensationalist and misleading. (Not dismissing ‘Hasan’s’ concerns obviously.)

You can be here on indefinite leave to remain.

For 99.9% of crimes it is not an option for the U.K. to strip you of British citizenship. It has to be a specific crime in the legislation, being a terrorist or foreign spy for example, and the government has to prove that the safety of the public depends on you being stripped of citizenship and deported, or barred from ever coming back to the U.K. The crimes that used to fall under “treason to crown and country” are the ones on the list.

What don’t you agree with?

Yes, many people can spend most of their life in the U.K. on a series of back to back visas and/or indefinite leave to remain, or if an EU citizen with settled status.

That's today.

Who knows what tomorrow will bring ?

Tomorrow is tomorrow. There is no need to sow fear of what might be tomorrow. Besides, Boris Johnson lived most if his life with dual citizenship. He renounced the US citizenship because the US taxes it’s citizens abroad (only country in the world that does it), not because he feared being stripped of his British citizenship and put on a one way flight to Rwanda. He isn’t unique, I would say many more MPs have more than one citizenship, they aren’t going to vote into law anything that might get them shipped off.

Imo it’s a slippery slope. And no matter what the crime people should not be stripped of their citizenship.

If you’re a British citizen, regardless of access to another country’s citizenship, then it’s for Britain to resolve not another country.

Creates a two tier system.

2 people born in uk; both commit a qualifying (currently) crime, one gets deported other doesnt. Because one will have access to eg Irish or Pakistani etc nationality and the other is a thoroughbred Brit.

Such a system is wrong.

Shouldn't the headline read, "Home Office admits Israel is an apartheid state"?

That was what I read when I posted it. However I suspected it makes me "anti-" something, so left it to the reader to decide.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/18/home-office-attempt-to-deport-uk-born-man-was-judge-says